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From: Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1  encoded file names and UTF-8
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:25:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <shzno5yaui.fsf@tux.gnu.franken.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8582-Sat08Mar2003190654+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> ("Eli Zaretskii"'s message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:06:54 +0200")

"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@elta.co.il> writes:

> And what is the value of `default-file-name-coding-system'?  If it's
> anything but `utf-8', please try setting `file-name-coding-system' to
> `utf-8' and see if that helps.

I did ask for help; I reported a problem worth fixing ;)  It is a
reather serious problem, IMO.

> This would contradict the whole purpose of a multilingual Emacs: it is
> meant to seamlessly display characters from different character sets
> without any special effects.

This might be appropriate when you use Emacs for reading mail and
news.  But it's a wrong behavior when it come to "source code"

> How can Emacs know that in this particular case, you want it to
> display different character sets differently?

When a XML file or a PO file (that's a message file used by gettext) is
declared as UTF-8 encoded and Emacs detects an error within such a
file, it's surely worth notifying the user.

> I believe that if such a feature is added, it must be driven by
> user-level settings.  For example, users could define a list of
> character sets or codepoints which they don't expect to see in their
> buffers, and Emacs will then flag characters from those sets with some
> visual cue.

Yes, approximately.  But instead of a list of character sets it must
depend on a list of file types (.xml, .po, .java, etc.).

> It's even possible that you can do that yourself right now by using
> hi-lock.el or something similar, since IIRC regular expressions can be
> used to express character categories.

Thanks for advice :) I know how to work around the problem; for checking
.po files one can use 'msgfmt' etc.  I'd rather vote to change Emacs to
make users happy -- that's probably not that urgent, but it should
happen for the next major release coming from CVS HEAD.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-08 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-08  6:15 ISO-8859-1 encoded file names and UTF-8 Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-08  9:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-03-08 10:05   ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-08 17:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-03-08 18:25       ` Karl Eichwalder [this message]
2003-03-08 22:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-03-09  4:38           ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-19 13:33 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-19 16:15   ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-19 23:52     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-20 17:32       ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-21  6:01         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-21 19:53           ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-21 19:06       ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-20  8:46   ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-20  9:11     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-23  2:52       ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-24  0:28         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-24 19:27           ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-26  4:47             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-01 21:17   ` etags and UTF-8 encoded file names (Re: ISO-8859-1 encoded file names and UTF-8) Karl Eichwalder
2003-04-02  1:34     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-02 19:26       ` Richard Stallman

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