From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display word wrapping Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 10:28:20 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085819331 16102 80.91.224.253 (29 May 2004 08:28:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 08:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat May 29 10:28:43 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BTzCt-0005Nx-00 for ; Sat, 29 May 2004 10:28:43 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BTzCt-0007vT-00 for ; Sat, 29 May 2004 10:28:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BTzCx-0003be-I9 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 29 May 2004 04:28:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BTzCo-0003Yj-9r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 May 2004 04:28:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BTzCn-0003YG-7G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 May 2004 04:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BTzCn-0003Xz-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 May 2004 04:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.175.24.41] (helo=elvis.franken.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BTzBd-0004r9-I9; Sat, 29 May 2004 04:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1BTzBY-0007EQ-00; Sat, 29 May 2004 10:27:20 +0200 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id BDCCFB5457; Sat, 29 May 2004 10:28:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 28 May 2004 21:44:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24147 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24147 Richard Stallman writes: > I agree that word-wrapping in display would be useful for viewing > unfilled files. Gnus comes with various so called washing functions. But even for editing word-wrapping is important > However, that raises the question of how we design Emacs with both > line-breaking and word-wrapping without making that somewhat > confusing. I think the issue must be checked case by case. Editing wikipedia articles is an interesting case. A mode for editing the Emacs wiki is already available, but last time I tried (approx. 6 months ago) this mode didn't work that good for wikipedia.org articles. I know several people who are interested in using Emacs as an editor for wikipedia.org. accessing the article over http isn't that important - you can use Emacs as an external editor for webbrowsers - but dealing with the articles' source texts is. Such an article looks as follows ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park ):
[[image:Centralpark.jpg]] [[de:Central Park]] [[sv:Central Park]] '''Central Park''' is a very large [[park]] (843 acres =3D 3.4 km=C2=B2, a = rectangle of 2.5 miles/4 km by one-half mile/800 m) in [[Manhattan]], [[New= York, New York|New York]], [[New York]], [[United States]]. An oasis for = Manhattanites escaping from their [[skyscraper]]s, the park is well-known w= orldwide after its appearance in many movies and television shows. The park was designed by [[Frederick Law Olmsted]] and [[Calvert Vaux]], wh= o later created [[Brooklyn, New York|Brooklyn]]'s [[Prospect Park]]. While = much of the park looks natural, it is in fact highly landscaped. It contain= s several artificial [[lake]]s, extensive [[walking track]]s, two [[ice-ska= ting]] rinks, a wildlife sanctuary, and [[pasture|grass]]y areas used for m= yriad [[sport]]ing pursuits, as well as [[playground]]s for [[child]]ren. T= he park is a popular oasis for migrating [[bird]]s, and thus is popular wit= h [[bird watcher]]s. The 9.7 km road circling the park is popular with jogg= ers, bicyclists and [[inline skate]]rs, especially on weekends when automob= ile traffic is banned. [...] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- cut here -=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Of course, more contructs are allowed; e.g., lists: *point 1 *point 2 *point 3 and, the horror, tables: {| | entry 1 | entry 2| |- | entry 3 | entry 4| |} --=20 | ,__o | _-\_<, http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | (*)/'(*)