From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:47:56 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200306041404.h54E4SO30552@f7.net> <5x8ysg6p4r.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200306052323.h55NNr4B002965@rum.cs.yale.edu> <9003-Fri06Jun2003125021+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055692202 19351 80.91.224.249 (15 Jun 2003 15:50:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 15 17:49:58 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19RZl4-0004ze-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:49:30 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ra83-0006EN-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:13:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19RZmT-0001XX-EZ for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:50:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19RZmD-0001XM-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:50:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19RZm9-0001Wu-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:50:40 -0400 Original-Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19RZm9-0001WI-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:50:37 -0400 Original-Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19RZku-0003ZU-00; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:49:20 +0200 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id CC5BC61037; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:47:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: (Robert J. Chassell's message of "Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:00:01 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15103 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15103 "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > This is because output expressions do not distinguish between > references to the same document on a different page and distant > documents, In lynx, press '=' and you will see what's up with the link (or switch to "advanced user" and the status line will show useful info). > and because I cannot go to next, previous, and subsequent nodes > readily, HTML has LINK in HEAD; LINK is meant to serve those purposes and lynx supports it since ages. > or do regular expression searches through a multi-page document. Use grep to go thru local file (etags and tags-search might work as well); if you are interested in remote files, either make use of a search engine or install an http index tool like htdig -- question: how to you browse remotely installed info files? ;) Of course, I don't want to deny that Texinfo is very strong for certain tasks. > It looks to me that HTML was designed by someone who thought everyone > would always be on one planet on the same, fast local area network. It's simply impossible to store _all_ docs locally. > I don't see how hiding node names could be a step in the wrong > direction. > > Because node names tell you where a file is located. This isn't always true. To be sure, I must enter the node and then call C-x C-f (or a similar command)--glancing at the node name does not tell me whether it's under /usr/share/info or /gnu/share/info; I use thise setting (abbreviated): (add-to-list 'Info-additional-directory-list "/gnu/share/info") -- | ,__o http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | _-\_<, ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home) | (*)/'(*)