From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Wes Hardaker Subject: Re: OrgmodeOrgmodePOLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:27:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mg3YZ-0007fd-Ks for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:27:55 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mg3YU-0007fP-NA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:27:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58574 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mg3YU-0007fM-Hf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:27:50 -0400 Received: from mail.hardakers.net ([168.150.236.43]:56902) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mg3YU-0003wq-2L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:27:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Wes Hardaker's message of "Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:30:51 -0700") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Wes Hardaker Cc: org-mode Mailinglist , Carsten Dominik >>>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:30:51 -0700, Wes Hardaker said: >>>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:12:16 +0200, Carsten Dominik said: CD> 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again WH> +1. I find these two keys have confused me more than any others Thinking about it further, I realized a good part of the confusion results from the up/down keys actually doing in-buffer movement and left/right doing date movement. I don't think that's "natural" for people. They expect the arrows, be it up/down/left/right, to act in a similar fashion to each other. I don't think this is the right approach either, but I mention it for completeness: if you removed the up/down arrow bindings I bet people would stop trying to use arrows for navigation at all, which would be better than leaving them "half bound". Granted, I think people still expect arrows to always be bound to in-buffer movement anyway, so the current default is confusing and it would be better to let the left/right bound again to in-buffer movement. -- \ Wes Hardaker http://pontifications.hardakers.net / \_____ "In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than ________/ \_______ the soap, and much more difficult to find." _______/ \_________ -- Terry Pratchett ______________/ \__________________/