From: Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info>
To: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
Cc: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>, Evans Winner <ego111@gmail.com>,
Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>, Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>,
Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>,
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs as a desktop environment
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:34:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <sa34o4cd1sn.fsf@cigue.easter-eggs.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DE11F72.1060008@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Sat, 28 May 2011 17:14:42 +0100")
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On Sat, May 28 2011, David De La Harpe Golden wrote:
> AFAIUI the main thing really stalling wholesale movement to xcb and
> retirement of xlib in general is the absence of an xlib-free replacement for
> GLX. Right now, if an x11 app/toolkit/canvas ever wants to use accelerated
> opengl rendering (and "everyone" wants those fancy 3d effects these
> days...), it /must/ link to xlib (even if xlib itself is sitting on top of
> xcb) - see writeup here:
>
> http://xcb.freedesktop.org/opengl/
>
> (note as the link explains xcb-glx is not sufficient, it's only part of the
> puzzle). Work on removing the xlib dependency for opengl apps seems to
> proceed in fits and starts, typically coincidental with GSoC projects...
This is less true :-) if you can rely on the Xlib version you'll use
being XCB-enabled.
Then you can use Xlib to connect to the display and call
XGetXCBConnection(3) to get the connection to the display in its XCB
form.
This allows to fake the usage of Xlib while still doing real things with
XCB.
I ported startup-notification to XCB (which does not uses OpenGL but
provides an Xlib API) this way last year.
--
Julien Danjou
❱ http://julien.danjou.info
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2011-05-25 1:05 Emacs as a desktop environment Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 7:31 ` joakim
[not found] ` <87ei3n1dph.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de>
2011-05-25 10:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 16:45 ` PJ Weisberg
2011-05-25 16:33 ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-25 17:44 ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-25 19:26 ` Evans Winner
2011-05-25 21:58 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-25 22:15 ` David Kastrup
2011-05-25 22:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-25 23:04 ` Christophe Poncy
2011-05-26 0:18 ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-26 0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-26 5:45 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-05-27 1:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-28 0:09 ` Nix
2011-05-28 10:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-28 10:44 ` Nix
2011-05-28 16:14 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-05-30 8:34 ` Julien Danjou [this message]
2011-05-25 22:08 ` Nix
2011-05-25 23:57 ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-26 7:27 ` joakim
2011-05-26 8:33 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-05-26 14:16 ` BBDB in the GNU ELPA (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 23:12 ` BBDB in the GNU ELPA Glenn Morris
2011-05-27 3:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-27 12:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 14:57 ` Bernt Hansen
2011-05-30 12:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 18:08 ` Glenn Morris
2011-05-30 19:27 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-05-30 19:42 ` Glenn Morris
2011-05-31 9:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 23:35 ` Emacs as a desktop environment Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 1:33 ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-26 15:36 ` PJ Weisberg
2011-05-26 16:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 0:58 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2011-05-26 15:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 16:38 ` joakim
2011-05-27 12:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 8:10 ` joakim
2011-05-28 17:49 ` just-the-text Emacs frame (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 20:01 ` Emacs24 Mobile (was: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame (was: Emacs as a desktop environment)) Mohsen BANAN
2011-05-29 1:44 ` Emacs24 Mobile Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-29 2:00 ` T.V. Raman
2011-05-30 17:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-28 20:18 ` just-the-text Emacs frame Thierry Volpiatto
2011-05-28 22:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-29 10:12 ` joakim
2011-06-01 18:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 2:43 ` Leo
2011-06-02 4:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 15:43 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 17:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 20:19 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 21:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:09 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-03 20:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 22:31 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 18:53 ` GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties (was: just-the-text Emacs frame) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 20:59 ` GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:21 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 16:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03 17:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 17:39 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 18:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 20:58 ` sending X client messages from Emacs (was: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 21:27 ` sending X client messages from Emacs Chong Yidong
2011-06-10 21:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 2:40 ` just-the-text Emacs frame Leo
2011-06-03 11:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 11:55 ` Leo
2011-06-03 15:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-04 3:51 ` Leo
2011-06-04 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03 9:24 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 11:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 13:16 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:27 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 16:30 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 17:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 18:06 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 19:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-06 8:38 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-06 9:23 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-06 9:34 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-06 10:00 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-06 20:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 8:25 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-10 16:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 17:35 ` T.V. Raman
2011-06-10 18:57 ` chad
2011-06-10 20:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 8:04 ` Philipp Haselwarter
2011-06-11 10:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 15:54 ` org-src.el begin_src/end_src fontification may have been broken recently (was: just-the-text Emacs frame) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:02 ` org-src.el begin_src/end_src fontification may have been broken recently Stefan Monnier
2011-06-07 18:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:05 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-07 19:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 0:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 16:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 19:51 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-06-10 23:00 ` Bastien
2011-06-11 10:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 10:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 18:16 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-12 22:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 8:05 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-06-13 14:38 ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-13 15:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-14 9:41 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-14 16:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-15 8:12 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-15 14:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-20 13:32 ` Bastien
2011-06-06 8:32 ` just-the-text Emacs frame Julien Danjou
2011-06-06 9:22 ` Jan Djärv
2011-05-26 17:50 ` Emacs as a desktop environment Tom Tromey
2011-06-13 17:36 ` taking over global key events (X, NS, W32) (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 18:41 ` taking over global key events (X, NS, W32) joakim
2011-06-13 19:22 ` Mathias Dahl
2011-06-13 20:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
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