From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaj Schumacher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:13:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <0ded5ecd-f5f6-4a8e-9d19-f61bf0401022@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <86hcad9ar4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <927b0c4a-3de2-4be5-b86a-7ffacc4d718e@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <88821130-f989-49ac-b8b1-e3cb2f5c5271@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217330089 16804 80.91.229.12 (29 Jul 2008 11:14:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Lee Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 29 13:15:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KNnB1-000190-Dp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:15:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37282 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNnA6-00043t-U7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:14:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KNn9k-00043V-85 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:14:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KNn9i-00043J-Ef for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48929 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNn9i-00043G-BA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de ([217.72.192.227]:47010) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KNn9i-0001qt-6Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DF4E7717AB; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:14:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [136.199.55.225] (helo=aragorn.uni-trier.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1KNn9g-0008GS-00; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:14:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <88821130-f989-49ac-b8b1-e3cb2f5c5271@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> (Xah Lee's message of "Mon\, 28 Jul 2008 15\:54\:35 -0700 \(PDT\)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-Sender: n_schumacher@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+LrLpmpmO0xprX08kZGLeXZGKUb7Y3P9yDNqQd 2dNLHtGhnlJH+BX7xVXg3z50ayoXXPWZcdfcHi2Zas24Yq2lLO DvVNaNqA0wXgCYx5pOWA== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56020 Archived-At: Xah Lee wrote: > I just might down the road start my own emacs cult... creating a emacs > distro that's just my ideal of what functional, BEST efficient, > software should be like.[SNIP] > > The most effective way to make such change, is just have a capable > coder and fork it, like Xemacs and Aquamacs did. Please do. I don't think it's the best way to make such a change, but it is the most effective (and perhaps only) way of proving your point: That users want this. Just make sure you stay as compatible as possible so that no work is lost. > So, either i try to spend tons of time to be the salesman for emacs > modernization, or i actually take things into my hands and start my > own emacs distro. Exactly. Plus, nobody really likes salespeople. :) > The actually coding part for the latter will prob be dwarfed by all > the associated tasks of running a website with public annoucement and > communities etc. If you think there are enough users out there, you should be able to find contributors. After all you do believe a majority preferred modernization, right? regards, Nikolaj Schumacher