From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 72b1379f079: Increase `emacs-lisp-docstring-fill-column` to 72 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2024 07:14:58 +0800 Message-ID: References: <170687730547.552.9673193819426474611@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20240202123506.0CEC7C0EFF5@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87mssjm0ac.fsf@yahoo.com> <87il36mevf.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4128"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 04 00:16:38 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rWPFV-0000x3-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2024 00:16:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWPEc-0000at-8S; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 18:15:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWPEb-0000al-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 18:15:41 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic314-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.189.147]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWPEY-000136-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 18:15:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1707002134; bh=S2YkHw/R7TcqHQyXjaidUS1WJocCyav6yNKXxN2STco=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=UVyfeFrIHZ/x3wdj6NT8LYgWCJi4G1d8x+KIldVvj+Kx1jmJX4/Nao0at/Xtvh3FY3gPnCwl5EBoyj0sWzE1YrEgDsNbzvnHsxTDSDZfFvAOmngK4W+QHcCaVODfbKcy+YdZEo+m/KJE3xlOhBHJzPbkl0qrrXWDzO8dNqSQlxqUcD00Dh1qfPeFjMseRaLx0/PSQFJYyr0i9yuBSYWNQzqqICVyLfyscbfbBq1MfU0ihdaBPTkyQUsoK7e+3VXUg8soyX2k/ZJA6poY+Uuep02LYiYodfxYiRuns8KwHIPkvFehb4CljRM+kEvyeHWvQxehHB1Q881Hd6Ko125awg== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1707002134; bh=mqu9alImXyslsG2ruLXdRUMuLQ4/zQSt8yqu2MWK26n=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=ge0hMHdrCsNXb4/1XBKqfPWMAmV9ml9tLi731uM4eFszPRxM7UEDaIoorf1wGjOzYAJO+KHJbEYJ4WsdJ1s47fcuS4bqsvRhp4SUuYdB1Xm8oh0JOGSpIxQGjq1B25lwKzUn6EXXrWzuaOs2RN8Eb9nl3OUYA43acQinPO2sVmHVCPDU5CYbztRDV6ozFLGalVEP9Jjx3vrdCe79n2bR9RbVFtsM7PoAjeBPBd8MEJpke8kCcf1k5AucVWZKT7aIJXzxnhahMYQhQD53q/NRBcjneTrWphNrCICFViKe8+N0xjPtOTlQ7PMACvf/6pPnG7sgCbJdvuh99usR/DI1Sw== X-YMail-OSG: L2wnlbYVM1mB2nLmqAkHH7lOF.iU98JsvhMiv1eejk2AJu_V3O3NOApOt0itT1I P_beSncW2hZPs3R_y_SZg9dmOjB6INTx3Zah0FuaAdk2ucGImmioTOrwnCeauqBvqyzDsfVDiR6y TVeVDChGOv7.Ecb_QAz6vuf0BFVSeJ7w.bav10_mhzsHIfpxRaOj7c6eZb6rXV5zrpnuKwgfimlL mQmlemLHZxGPL2kwivsdYTtUDqgalN14VnEiPbHmmYLyGy8ozNYNjlVLYOqKSxx3IlXJYKnL9Z3X YwTAAb2yKdyaue9xfAuIqMATDkz8MxF0u8zQkXIbudetw2MN6wpLwIhNu5iK75ZHa._ubCYJu84g 1rPGF_sh7eydkndcZn7DBNV_isAI5nyvAsOIpWunLx.TIGRligSmXdX_ewkHWudkFfz8xzw4jqkr 1orFL6OCPU2NTNZu9NcYrUvomzA4cb0QoxAk9.kL9hTElWj.BMafFa3LAu0tgWNQJrglGPBjxQnO N2VgMsL47f0YmkDnoOTAa9YNhVe_mo4mxYMrgt0vFavZIJXeAA46SZiMZzNxGurD8cKU3.XwFcqH JgykYwrhHUA.7P4.eDerklNFwdTONmmhqUIVAh18eEeKG8Le6xzKUaSKR6jbjFr5FbnCUEHTZ1jK Ez6kPiWPZbBQSBzS7_1SI7aFM5gde5r.4Al0Mz5NIYBKarnoke6RFlTldgD_WCDfcolhcnmWFgLn ty5wvwLvqUkQqIAaXwwn0kZAdgrtlFwZiNjUef08A_bsYsjMOg5eKqQqZNSspMLlaYfUSC1KoOgE oCSecTtxK0P0xKgDCeFge2eu1Qp7zrobsn8Crsy2x6 X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: ef2f1fe1-e5b0-4d91-9510-fedb5d573b89 Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic314.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 3 Feb 2024 23:15:34 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-6dc75bc8fb-pl74c (Yahoo Inc. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315843 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Po Lu writes: > >> of which criticism is met by an ultimatum to either complete a task >> that stands little chance of success (designing and securing the >> universal adoption of a new doc string format), > > It seems like you think I didn't mean what I said, or in other words > that I wasn't replying honestly. Not at all! I only wanted to express that your reply carried the tone of an ultimatum, and that this uncompromising defense of change is, in my observations, one of the principal factors behind the bitterness perceptible in every discussion touching the subject, e.g. those on defaults, of which December's conversations on registers is a prime example. I don't have the time to respond to the remainder of your email at the moment.