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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6b9b95cf19affbf8d51ec3643c6d5cb0; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 23:49:45 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:33:40 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.147; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic314-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311527 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > While using portable colors is a concern, it seems orthogonal. X.Org > ships with these colors, and as things stand, nothing is stopping them > from being used. We could perhaps recommend against using them, and > not much else. We shouldn't distribute non-standard color files in the first place: users should have no occasion to use them, so the less places they are mentioned or available in, the better. > Reverting will mean that these colors won't work for users on some of > our most commonly used platforms. That's all. Is it good practice to > leave such things broken on some platforms, in the hope that it will > be enough to provoke Emacs Lisp developers to fix it on some others? Yes, since "web" colors are easily specified through their RGB values, and "x11" colors are identical to their unprefixed progenitors.