From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: 31 Aug 2002 18:12:49 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200207181644.g6IGiuv11955@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200207191653.g6JGrpV26904@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207191744.g6JHisp16756@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200207202207.g6KM7ux29310@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208090756.g797uTN12006@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208101716.g7AHGwW05971@wijiji.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030814014 30333 127.0.0.1 (31 Aug 2002 17:13:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17lBoT-0007t8-00 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:13:33 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17lCLo-00029s-00 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:48:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17lBpw-0002Wr-00; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17lBnr-0002Kb-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:12:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17lBno-0002KH-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk ([148.79.80.39]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17lBnm-0002Jw-00; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17lBnm-0006ko-00; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 18:12:50 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org Original-Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7214 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7214 Richard Stallman writes: > Could people who are working on things that might be desirale to > include soon please speak up and identify those changes? Not that I'm working on, but there are partly done things on the todo list that deserve attention and I don't think have been tackled. It would be nice to include W3, but I'm not sure it's in a good enough state, and I'm not likely to fix it anytime soon. (It has various problems and omissions currently, and I don't think all its support files are clean enough to include, although including it might actually get people to help with it.) However, a few of its files may be worth including, as they aren't W3-specific as far as I remember, e.g. socks.el and ssl.el. (Some of the W3 pieces actually reveal the need for extra hooks in Emacs; I think socks.el, as well as various stuff for Emacspeak, as also noted in todo.) The `url' package which supports W3 probably is in a good enough state to install, however, although it still needs work and documentation. It provides a framework and support for accessing URLs, like an HTTP 1.1 client in Lisp. As far as I remember, it has complete assignments (unlike at least one file in W3), but since I've lost access to fencepost, I can't check. Presumably the current Gnus development source should be considered, but last I knew, there were assignment problems with that, and someone will have to do the same sort of work as we did with Gnus 5.9 (including checking that bits we excluded then aren't still in the sources). I suspect it needs Mule-related attention too. There's other work that could be taken up with small amounts of effort to avoid it going to waste, such as merging back my branch containing the XEmacs theme support for Custom which has been hanging around for a long time.