From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail
From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs
Subject: Re: decode-char & utf-8-fragment-on-decoding
Date: 05 Sep 2002 00:34:51 +0100
Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org
Message-ID: <rzqd6rtuy5g.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk>
References: <87y9aii9hc.fsf@cricket.magic.csuhayward.edu>
	<200209040818.RAA12414@etlken.m17n.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031182410 30164 127.0.0.1 (4 Sep 2002 23:33:30 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 23:33:30 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: tlm@pocketmail.com,  bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org>
Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173])
	by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))
	id 17mjeJ-0007qK-00
	for <gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org>; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 01:33:28 +0200
Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org)
	by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10)
	id 17mjfw-000862-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:35:08 -0400
Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10)
	id 17mjfn-00085l-00
	for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:34:59 -0400
Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10)
	id 17mjfk-00085Z-00
	for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:34:58 -0400
Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk ([148.79.80.39])
	by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10)
	id 17mjfk-00085V-00
	for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:34:56 -0400
Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))
	id 17mjff-0001ZD-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 00:34:51 +0100
Original-To: Kenichi Handa <handa@etl.go.jp>
Original-Lines: 14
User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2
Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org
X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>,
	<mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
	the Swiss army knife of text editors <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>,
	<mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-gnu-emacs/>
Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:3420
X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:3420

Kenichi Handa <handa@etl.go.jp> writes:

> Thank you.  It seems to be the right fix.  I'll install it
> soon.   Dave, do you see any problem with that?

Yes, I think it's wrong.  I think the only bug is that the doc string
of `utf-8-fragment-on-decoding' is missing the normal `setting it
directly does not take effect' text for a Custom option with a setter.
It has no effect on how decoding is done, and `decode-char' was meant
to be consistent with how utf-8 decoding actually works.

The translation table is always used -- CCL has no way to access Lisp
variables anyway.  It only matters how it's populated (empty by
default).