From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill White Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestions for mode-line-format changes Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:58:34 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5xk7mlfsvf.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <874rdl357r.fsf@wesley.springies.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030121984 21793 127.0.0.1 (23 Aug 2002 16:59:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm), emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17iHmh-0005fO-00 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:59:43 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17iIGA-0008J3-00 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:30:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17iHnt-0004Dj-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17iHlo-0004B5-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17iHlm-0004Ao-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from wri-dns0.wolfram.com ([140.177.205.10] helo=wolfram.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17iHlm-0004Ai-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:58:46 -0400 Original-Received: from billwlx.wolfram.com.wolfram.com (dmz5.wolfram.com [140.177.205.1]) by wolfram.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g7NGwY811367; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:58:34 -0500 Original-To: Alan Shutko X-Phone: 217-398-0700 x 234 X-Fax: 217-398-0747 X-Face: $f^q=3W-VRc;w9na5Y.c-Jvu)M";y1O184tHjf@PP26MzCi.}7S^GP;QlJ$A3.PH|-`aQZ! d,*2d|f2z"9y%}r'$nhAO(9h`dv>,Mp\H6jf8AbuG>EZ,{u:cksL#NwCBoF<\;{QO+p32'(1*r"f-l baaB}uoEkv(o864LM@sH In-Reply-To: <874rdl357r.fsf@wesley.springies.com> (Alan Shutko's message of "Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:33:28 -0400") Original-Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6804 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6804 On Fri Aug 23 2002 at 11:33, Alan Shutko said: > Personally, I think that the global-mode-string information is more > important to me than the modes, and this new change is exactly > opposite my priorities. I think that most people would probably > agree with me. Can we have a survey of some sort to decide whether > to keep this change? (Right now, I yanked the entire mode-line > setup out of the old bindings.el, but that means I lose out on > actual improvements.) I'm with Alan. Since time immemorial (or, like, 1992) I've looked at one place on the screen to get the time and date. Now it's way over there somewhere, if I'm lucky and haven't done C-x 3. bw -- Bill White Office: 5N-X30 Documentation Programmer Phone: 217-398-0700 x 234 Wolfram Research Fax: 217-398-0747 http://members.wri.com/billw Office hours: 4am-noon Mon-Wed, Fri