From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:09:53 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBBD155.2050703@yahoo.com> <200311192238.hAJMcTM06424@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBD2533.6090503@yahoo.com> <200311270014.hAR0E0i02821@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311271611.hARGBhP04028@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311271857.hARIvGr04327@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069960408 21158 80.91.224.253 (27 Nov 2003 19:13:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 27 20:13:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1APRZt-0008P8-00 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:13:25 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1APRZs-0002uo-00 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:13:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1APSVw-0008TG-RA for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:13:24 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1APSUV-00085X-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:11:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1APSTz-0007tg-F9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:11:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [130.225.40.227] (helo=sheridan.dina.kvl.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1APSTx-0007qW-An for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:11:21 -0500 Original-Received: by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (Postfix, from userid 304) id 575F613CFC; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:09:53 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: <200311271857.hARIvGr04327@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:57:16 -0600 (CST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18172 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18172 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Per Abrahamsen wrote: > > (let (found) > (mapatoms (lambda (sym) > (let ((group (get sym 'custom-group))) > (setq found (append group found))))) > (mapatoms (lambda (sym) > (and (boundp sym) > (get sym 'standard-value) > (not (assq sym found)) > (insert (format "%S\n" sym)))))) > > This lists all kinds of variables that _do_ have a :group. (Actually, > I believe it lists all customizable variables.) I get this list: initial-scratch-message mml2015-unabbrev-trust-alist gnus-inhibit-mime-unbuttonizing flyspell-default-dictionary gnus-agent-expire-unagentized-dirs mail-source-ignore-errors nntp-authinfo-file message-minibuffer-local-map mml-signencrypt-style-alist > Why does `M-x customize-group RET nil RET' work then? If you evaluate: > > (defcustom a 4 "c") > > then the customizable variable `a' winds up listed there, together > with the other four. I don't get "a" in the nil group. The only members of the nil group I get is those explicitly put there by a buggy Gnus macro. Maybe it is because I use an older Emacs.