From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: UDP/DNS in Emacs Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:03:00 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200203311640.g2VGecR10784@aztec.santafe.edu> <1858-Fri05Apr2002130225+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1018008391 13367 127.0.0.1 (5 Apr 2002 12:06:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:06:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16tSUB-0003TU-00 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:06:31 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16tShB-0005eG-00 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:19:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16tSTl-0005lg-00; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:06:05 -0500 Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk ([130.225.40.227]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16tSRM-0005Xi-00 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:03:36 -0500 Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA24762; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:03:06 +0200 Original-Received: (from abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA29608; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:03:01 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: zuse.dina.kvl.dk: abraham set sender to abraham@dina.kvl.dk using -f Original-To: Eli Zaretskii X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: <1858-Fri05Apr2002130225+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> ("Eli Zaretskii"'s message of "Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:02:26 +0300") Original-Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2388 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2388 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > This is impractical in many places. Inconvenient and expensive, certainly. Nonetheless, it was the reality I grow up with. > All I can say is that to me, this blacklisting sounds akin to racism: I don't think I'm the one overreacting. People who use incompetent ISP's will have inferior connectivity. The guilty part are the ISP's and the spammers, not the people who try to keep spam down at a level where they don't have to drop email entirely as a communication media. You are blaming victims.