From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK! Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:26:48 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048610124 21738 80.91.224.249 (25 Mar 2003 16:35:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 17:35:22 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18xrKo-0005Mv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:31:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xrJy-0001Ml-01 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:30:42 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!news.net.uni-c.dk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 13 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: zuse.dina.kvl.dk Original-X-Trace: news.net.uni-c.dk 1048609608 38072 130.225.40.245 (25 Mar 2003 16:26:48 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.net.uni-c.dk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:26:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Qs0tmqyllRnc/17gqvpqkyLu1k8= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:111388 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:7889 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:7889 Niels Freimann writes: > Gtk isn't "the future", but the presence. True. And on day, it will be the past. Emacs is for the long run. During its lifetime, the dominating toolkits have been at least termcap, curses, terminfo, SunView, raw X10, raw X11, XView, Motif, Qt, GTK 1 and GTK2; and in some circles w16, PM, w32, MFC, NeXTStep and Cocoa. Emacs need to be able to adopt to an ever changing environment. GUI fashion come and go, only Emacs is for ever.