Keymap customization

Keymap customization

[Per Abrahamsen]

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Hi RMS and gang,

What is needed for the keymap customization support to be included in
Emacs?  

Here are the open issues:

1. The defkeymap should generate a defvar.

2. The generation of new prefix keys is not supported.

3. We really should use a two-keymap solution in define-key.

Fixing #3 would also fix #2.

I am willing to solve #1 if that mean I can commit the code to the
Emacs CVS.  I'll also think about #2 then.

I believe #3 is the right thing, I'm not willing to do that work, but
I'll help anyone who volunteers.  But I don't think the current
suboptimal solution should be rejected if nobody volunteer to do #3.

The latest version is attached.

-- Per


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Re: Keymap customization

[Richard Stallman]

    1. The defkeymap should generate a defvar.

    2. The generation of new prefix keys is not supported.

    3. We really should use a two-keymap solution in define-key.

    Fixing #3 would also fix #2.

    I am willing to solve #1 if that mean I can commit the code to the
    Emacs CVS.  I'll also think about #2 then.

Don't bother with doing #2 using the current data format, since #3
will take care of it.

Is anyone interested in doing #3 now?

Re: Keymap customization

[Per Abrahamsen]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     1. The defkeymap should generate a defvar.
>
>     2. The generation of new prefix keys is not supported.
>
>     3. We really should use a two-keymap solution in define-key.
>
>     Fixing #3 would also fix #2.
>
>     I am willing to solve #1 if that mean I can commit the code to the
>     Emacs CVS.  I'll also think about #2 then.
>
> Don't bother with doing #2 using the current data format, since #3
> will take care of it.
>
> Is anyone interested in doing #3 now?

Nobody seems to volunteer.  

So do we give up, or use Alex' implementation?

As I said, I believe Alex' implementation will be forward compatible
with a define-key based solution, and I also believe this will be the
most important single improvement for ordinary users since Emacs 21.1,
so I believe we should go ahead with Alex' code.

Re: Keymap customization

[Stefan Monnier]

> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >     1. The defkeymap should generate a defvar.
> >
> >     2. The generation of new prefix keys is not supported.
> >
> >     3. We really should use a two-keymap solution in define-key.
> >
> >     Fixing #3 would also fix #2.
> >
> >     I am willing to solve #1 if that mean I can commit the code to the
> >     Emacs CVS.  I'll also think about #2 then.
> >
> > Don't bother with doing #2 using the current data format, since #3
> > will take care of it.
> >
> > Is anyone interested in doing #3 now?
> 
> Nobody seems to volunteer.  
> 
> So do we give up, or use Alex' implementation?

I vote to use Alex' code right away.


	Stefan

Re: Keymap customization

[Kim F. Storm]

"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu> writes:

> > So do we give up, or use Alex' implementation?
> 
> I vote to use Alex' code right away.

Me too.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

Re: Keymap customization

[Richard Stallman]

    As I said, I believe Alex' implementation will be forward compatible
    with a define-key based solution, and I also believe this will be the
    most important single improvement for ordinary users since Emacs 21.1,
    so I believe we should go ahead with Alex' code.

It would be better to do this than to make no change, but I asked Alex
if he would be willing to redo it the other way.

Re: Keymap customization

[Per Abrahamsen]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     As I said, I believe Alex' implementation will be forward compatible
>     with a define-key based solution, and I also believe this will be the
>     most important single improvement for ordinary users since Emacs 21.1,
>     so I believe we should go ahead with Alex' code.
>
> It would be better to do this than to make no change, but I asked Alex
> if he would be willing to redo it the other way.

And what did he answer?

Re: Keymap customization

[Alex Schroeder]

Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:

> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>     As I said, I believe Alex' implementation will be forward compatible
>>     with a define-key based solution, and I also believe this will be the
>>     most important single improvement for ordinary users since Emacs 21.1,
>>     so I believe we should go ahead with Alex' code.
>>
>> It would be better to do this than to make no change, but I asked Alex
>> if he would be willing to redo it the other way.
>
> And what did he answer?

He said: Not now...  :(

Alex.

Re: Keymap customization

[Richard Stallman]

    He said: Not now...  :(

In that case, can you install your current code now?

Re: Keymap customization

[Alex Schroeder]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     He said: Not now...  :(
>
> In that case, can you install your current code now?

Per, can you do that for me?

Alex.

Re: Keymap customization

[Per Abrahamsen]

Alex Schroeder <alex@emacswiki.org> writes:

> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>     He said: Not now...  :(
>>
>> In that case, can you install your current code now?
>
> Per, can you do that for me?

I can't get the code to work anymore, but I'll look into it.

Re: Keymap customization

[Per Abrahamsen]

Sigh.  I hoped to find time to integrate the keymap customization code
in December, but failed.  And I know I won't find the time in January,
so if Alex would take over the task, that would be great...