From: Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>
Subject: Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:24:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <rjbrc5v95o.fsf@sheridan.dina.kvl.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvk6quctxs.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I probably don't fully understand, although I think I follow you. Sounds
>> like an implementation problem to me - or perhaps a design problem?
>
> The designer might call it a feature rather than a problem.
>
> I do tend to think that it was a mistake to design something that looks like
> an elisp variable and which happens to be an elisp variable in 99% of the
> cases but which may be something else.
I kind of agree, I always thought there instead would be many more
"defsomething".
The :get, :set and :init were, if I remember right, introduced by
XEmacs people for use with specifiers. And since I didn't really care
about XEmacs (and certainly didn't understood specifiers to write a
defspecifier) I let them have their way.
And when it was there, it also got (ab)used in Emacs for minor modes.
It should have been part of a define-minor-mode instead, but as I
remember there already is was one of those.
It is simply too convenient to use these hooks to overload defcustom,
rather then define new "def-" whatever.
There also is a patch floating around here to overload defcustom for
keymaps as well. Again, I can't come up with a good API for a
"defkeymap", and wouldn't find the time to implement it anyway.
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-02 6:41 Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Drew Adams
2005-01-02 13:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 19:48 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-02 20:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 23:52 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 16:55 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 17:13 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-03 17:57 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 9:03 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:10 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:26 ` Miles Bader
2005-01-04 10:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 15:55 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 18:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 19:50 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 8:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-05 17:50 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-02 20:25 ` Reiner Steib
2005-01-02 20:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-01-02 23:52 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 0:35 ` Stefan
2005-01-03 1:57 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-03 20:45 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 9:46 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 17:31 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 20:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-05 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 21:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06 9:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-06 15:26 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-06 20:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-06 19:55 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 20:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-24 22:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-09 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 9:24 ` Per Abrahamsen [this message]
2005-01-04 14:13 ` Stefan
2005-01-04 19:54 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-05 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 8:48 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-03 17:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-04 1:58 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 7:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-01-04 0:54 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-05 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06 3:46 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-06 13:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-07 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-07 4:17 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-07 23:04 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-03 17:28 ` drkm
2005-01-03 18:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-03 18:56 ` drkm
2005-01-04 9:49 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:32 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 12:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
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