From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize interface: The use of "boxed" buttons Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:17:46 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086535084 26646 80.91.224.253 (6 Jun 2004 15:18:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 15:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 06 17:17:58 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BWzPK-00008K-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:17:58 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BWzPK-0003p1-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:17:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BWzPo-0000Qh-EM for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:18:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BWzPl-0000Qb-LC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:18:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BWzPl-0000QE-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:18:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BWzPl-0000Q4-1V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:18:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BWzPB-0004di-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BWzPB-0003i1-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:17:49 +0200 Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk ([130.225.40.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:17:49 +0200 Original-Received: from abraham by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:17:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sheridan.dina.kvl.dk X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gczvE4STaQVPreyDfij9YFpZxrY= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24610 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24610 I think another reason the boxed button style does not work visually in Customize, is that the button style is designed to buffers with a grey background, same as the buttons. On a white background, they look totally out of place. Perhaps they would work less bad if we changed the default background color of Customize I think it is ironic that RMS originally told me to use a plain face for buttons in Customize, as the bold font I used originally was to visually intrusive. And now we have the boxed buttons, which are a zillion times more intrusive.