From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: stan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: keyboard problem C-M-a Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:29:47 -0500 Organization: home Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257446530 26458 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2009 18:42:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:42:10 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 05 19:42:03 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N67HV-0007mv-Sb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:42:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52560 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N67HV-0000rD-CK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:42:01 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe12.iad.POSTED!aa923de6!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Linux) Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@teranews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:30:06 UTC Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:174431 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69505 Archived-At: I have two purposes here: I'd like to get some feedback on my thinking/troubleshooting and I'd also like to resolve the problem. I'm using Suse 11.0 with emacs 22.2.1 and cc-mode 5.31.5. In c-mode, C-M-a causes no response. I tried C-h b to look at the bindings and C-M-a is bound to c-beginning-of-defun. Here I'd like some feedback; I'm assuming that C-h b is reading "live" keymaps and not some prepared help text because I can see custom bindings and furthermore, I believe that because I can see the C-M-a binding that is is a true active binding and should work. Correct? So then I tried C-h k thinking it would show me basically the same thing emacs is seeing. Is that correct? Is ther a better way to see the "raw" keyboard input that emacs is seeing when I troubleshoot keyboard problems? I know this also shows the binding, but here I'm considering that a side effect. I'm running a graphical emacs so I assume that the keyboard input is comming from X. Based on my reasoning above I'm assuming that X or more likely KDE is possibly eating that keystroke before emacs sees it. Does that sound right or am I missing something? I also tried emacs -nw but I got basically the same response; the keychord was ignored. Since I ran from a terminal emulator under X I would expect that result if X or KDE is eating the key in route to emacs. I have nothing in my .emacs that could cause this but to be sure I tried starting without .emacs: same response. Have I ruled out emacs + configuration as the problem here? Are there obvious problems in my thinking/process/knowledge? Has anyone else seen this and/or does anyone have any ideas on where to start searching for the hungry keyboard bandit? Stan