From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:45:34 -0800 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <0839b53b-4607-144f-3746-db054a29c1cd@cs.ucla.edu> <83zikiqdu5.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2orkhn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480538375 5137 195.159.176.226 (30 Nov 2016 20:39:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:39:35 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , Richard Stallman , Emacs developers To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 21:39:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBf7-00006q-H7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 21:39:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46421 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBfB-0005Lb-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:39:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35961) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAp6-0004G5-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:45:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAp5-00029m-73 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:45:44 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:44774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAp4-00029K-NG; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:45:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=JkrXf+qryUd05B+zLUCwcPAknsLLjdCfV3TtXRRD+5s=; b=GmsPLHobYbj/270/2h717F+ya0vSLnxkbVDfcNDfG6PKpquDgkdenIC3Rp0SbXA2j4oaxh9aXpLoJb+uvcbwLVYfKQf/6s61lIgFLUb9ZHXbDPvhF91slHSyi94ChZTAHoBT+WffpFEki1dtsEUYkxNRtmioEuTrO5T6yda76g18YWBGTluH8tM0XV7kwxoNEv2n0U013iG8+VyXCSAyumjsgJ4QtHNMy461wFfXdd9MjWZpxCP0iICtE1BW7zB5YjUAKDOf2TQ90zlmtejOC88Yym4FqkcSKj+8weaEXKhneqOKeb7TNDw271+1LIZDDv5oti6gQe0uzIP9sGG3kQ==; Original-Received: from [2620:0:1008:100b:bc8e:4940:ab86:ab74] (helo=dancol-glaptop0) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAp2-00082H-O3; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:45:40 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Philippe Vaucher's message of "Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:29:40 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209831 Archived-At: On Wed, Nov 30 2016, Philippe Vaucher wrote: > EZ> Maybe, maybe not. I don't understand why we need to grasp the first straw > EZ> we see around to get rid of unexec. What's the rush? > > Eli has a good point here, there really is no rush. Daniel, would you be > willing to continue to incubate these changes in a branch, while we also > consider and explore alternatives? > > Isn't unexec what prevents emacs from building inside docker containers (because of the personality > syscall)? > > As far as I'm concerned, that's a quite annoying emacs limitation. See bug > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=23529. With the portable dumper, we'll no longer need any personality-changing calls. Emacs will be a normal, boring program.