From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jussi Piitulainen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X - configuration package Date: 01 Mar 2004 14:17:33 +0200 Organization: University of Helsinki Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040227213744639+0000@news.eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1078148048 20632 80.91.224.253 (1 Mar 2004 13:34:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 01 14:34:01 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AxnYW-0000xw-00 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:34:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AxnNa-0001FG-OG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:22:42 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!surfnet.nl!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!news.cc.tut.fi!news.helsinki.fi!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.ling.helsinki.fi Original-X-Trace: oravannahka.helsinki.fi 1078143453 13122 128.214.78.39 (1 Mar 2004 12:17:33 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@helsinki.fi Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Mar 2004 12:17:33 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:121393 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:17348 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:17348 Piet van Oostrum writes: > videoxfer wrote: > >> In the carbon build it's either alt or meta, depending on the value >> of the variable mac-command-key-is-meta. Every carbon emacs user I >> know sets this variable to nil, > > Well, I don't. The main reason is that I would loose the > Alt-keyboard function which gives me acces to non-ASCII characters, > like the Euro sign and accented characters. Yes, I know Emacs has > other ways to access these, but I find them handy as they are the > same as in other applications. If you are English-speaking then > these are less important. Maybe that's the reason the British don't > want the Euro :=) I went to a lot of trouble to have Alt as Meta and still get the most important Alt-characters. These are all in ASCII: @${[\|]}. I have Finnish keyboards, so there are keys for the letters I need for my own language, and accent keys give most of the rest, though not all. Now I type | as Alt-7 and \ as Shift-Alt-7 and so on, but Alt-c is M-c and Alt-q is M-q, and Command-q does no harm. Works well. The biggest loss is M-\, because I would have to type that as Shift-Alt-7, which gives the character \.