From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Add code from other files Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 23:20:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: <6d098cab-1a96-4eb7-a4c3-1a4cf0fb3270@starynkevitch.net> <2fa9f251-0c84-46b5-9a88-b525eb79a413@starynkevitch.net> <_PaeWZsPmOkMG6EHs5Q_pGgCKfPN6KS5G97LT-TdrvMPSwG-KP24LmGkPsei8HjCBOai36qQUA5h-XeSeyQ2OoB49djwEFS5RjWzONWiAG4=@proton.me> <87sewplyk9.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22103"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Drew Adams , Emanuel Berg , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: uzibalqa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 05 01:21:30 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sPVla-0005bC-3j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 01:21:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPVkt-000565-4m; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:20:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPVkr-00055r-Ec for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:20:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPVko-0001O2-6C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:20:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1720135239; x=1720394439; bh=/+EQ0zjP3sWlKeMeaRsI2n1hHWvf4+xp/0x163eyJfc=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=bHppl3jA3yH4/D9JlDCGbyIebrT7AdYwNJDGsEknKqoWTRjl6rGSYeUXqrAABtLOJ g7XyIbpZs0SGCeSd50ndz3dwKwCy/3N3jVpYYbvJomAb/WWH7XrjL9MSnsZyfOo/JE 9dQhzXr9VhWuaAAYYuiFpWe9JCzP13Z/g730rn70ROws8dEcsSxL7JwQedpaz99/sp uJ4KBNl/IZwINjg4vS5xaMPkX8aSxxB0aV1b2HW1OWms7HMvgEKyofK1r76B2xUdXV ZQGirTN0JpF8weAUoj2jhybu+39tnVBMbxeyzmAOw2q/Bk8t02pxe4j2AsN5Vm9874 GPNrRF/ojv+mQ== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: de3c715fb46201ded916a5e906fd4dca7f6b9d52 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.25; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4325.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TO_EQ_FM_DIRECT_MX=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:147077 Archived-At: On Thursday, July 4th, 2024 at 10:07 PM, uzibalqa wrot= e: > On Thursday, July 4th, 2024 at 9:32 PM, Drew Adams drew.adams@oracle.com = wrote: >=20 > > > Use `provide' downmost in all your files, and whenever one function i= s needed in some other file, you` require' that file > > > first (topmost) in THAT file. > > >=20 > > > Is a good way to do it. > > >=20 > > > If you byte-compile it will tell you, if some file uses > > > something not defined in that file, and also not require'd > > > from another where it is. > > >=20 > > > So you can both find bugs that way and find out what needs to > > > be required by what. > >=20 > > In addition, there's this case (not too common), > > mentioned in (elisp) `Named Features': > >=20 > > Although top-level calls to 'require' are evaluated > > during byte compilation, 'provide' calls are not. > > Therefore, you can ensure that a file of definitions > > is loaded before it is byte-compiled by including a > > 'provide' followed by a 'require' for the same feature, > > as in the following example. > >=20 > > (provide 'my-feature) ; Ignored by byte compiler, > > ; evaluated by 'load'. > > (require 'my-feature) ; Evaluated by byte compiler. >=20 >=20 > Please do not complicate my life. Do I really need to use this not too > common case ? Can someone explain to me why I should not use `load` ? What is load usefu= l for, but not useful in my case ?