* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded
2009-02-02 5:55 ` bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris
2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
` (2 more replies)
2009-02-02 8:05 ` bug#2150: marked as done (23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded) Emacs bug Tracking System
2009-02-02 8:05 ` Emacs bug Tracking System
2 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-02-02 7:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2150
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but
> not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs
> customizes that option.
That would depend on how you customize it (presumably you modify it in
some way that accesses the default value, rather than just setting it
unconditionally); but obviously just add the autoload back again if
it's causing problems.
(In general, some files seem to have been written under the assumption
that all defcustoms should be autoloaded. I think this is bogus, but
once this assumption has been made, it can become impossible to ever
take the autoloads away, for the reason you report here.)
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2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2009-02-02 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 2150
> (In general, some files seem to have been written under the assumption
> that all defcustoms should be autoloaded. I think this is bogus, but
Agreed: autoloading variables is evil.
> once this assumption has been made, it can become impossible to ever
> take the autoloads away, for the reason you report here.)
"Me too"
Stefan
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2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris
2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2009-02-02 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2150
> (In general, some files seem to have been written under the assumption
> that all defcustoms should be autoloaded. I think this is bogus, but
Agreed: autoloading variables is evil.
> once this assumption has been made, it can become impossible to ever
> take the autoloads away, for the reason you report here.)
"Me too"
Stefan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded
2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris
2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-02 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-02 22:34 ` Glenn Morris
2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-02-02 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2150
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: 2150@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:02:45 -0500
>
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> > In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but
> > not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs
> > customizes that option.
>
> That would depend on how you customize it (presumably you modify it in
> some way that accesses the default value, rather than just setting it
> unconditionally)
I customize variables in the simplest possible way: with a setq. This
always worked for me, since time immemoriam.
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* bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded
2009-02-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-02-02 22:34 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-02-02 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2150
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I customize variables in the simplest possible way: with a setq. This
> always worked for me, since time immemoriam.
I was referring to the difference between:
(setq rmail-ignored-headers "foo")
and
(setq rmail-ignored-headers (concat "foo\\|" rmail-ignored-headers))
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* bug#2150: marked as done (23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded)
2009-02-02 5:55 ` bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-02-02 8:05 ` Emacs bug Tracking System
2009-02-02 8:05 ` Emacs bug Tracking System
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
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To: Glenn Morris
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:55:21 -0500
Message-ID: <E1LTrmD-0007QQ-J7@fencepost.gnu.org>
In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but
not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs
customizes that option.
In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
of 2009-02-02 on fencepost
configured using `configure '--without-x''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: nil
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: nil
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Emacs-Lisp
Minor modes in effect:
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
global-auto-composition-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: 2150-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: Re: bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:53:30 -0500
Message-ID: <fzab95z345.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
Autoload restored.
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2009-02-02 5:55 ` bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-02 7:02 ` Glenn Morris
2009-02-02 8:05 ` bug#2150: marked as done (23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded) Emacs bug Tracking System
@ 2009-02-02 8:05 ` Emacs bug Tracking System
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From: Emacs bug Tracking System @ 2009-02-02 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:55:21 -0500
Message-ID: <E1LTrmD-0007QQ-J7@fencepost.gnu.org>
In previous Emacs versions, rmail-ignored-headers was autoloaded, but
not in 23.0.90. This causes failures at startup if your ~/.emacs
customizes that option.
In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
of 2009-02-02 on fencepost
configured using `configure '--without-x''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: nil
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: nil
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Emacs-Lisp
Minor modes in effect:
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
global-auto-composition-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
ESC [ > 0 ; 1 3 6 ; 0 c C-x C-f e m a c s . c v TAB
e m TAB ESC DEL p r e TAB e m a TAB 3 TAB / l i s TAB
m a i TAB r m a TAB . e TAB RET C-s i g n o r e d -
C-x C-f ~ / e m a c s C-g C-x C-z C-x C-f ESC DEL ESC
DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL DEL DEL 3 TAB DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL
DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL TAB TAB ESC DEL ESC DEL ESC DEL
TAB TAB e m TAB - 2 2 TAB TAB TAB - 2 2 TAB 3 TAB l
i s TAB / m a i TAB r m a TAB . e l RET C-s C-s C-x
b RET ESC x r e p o r t TAB RET
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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: 2150-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: Re: bug#2150: 23.0.90; rmail-ignored-headers is not autoloaded
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:53:30 -0500
Message-ID: <fzab95z345.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
Autoload restored.
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