From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Autocompletion of Emacs Lisp Symbols in Buffer Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:41:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273174968 9497 80.91.229.12 (6 May 2010 19:42:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Lee Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 06 21:42:47 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA6y6-0007Yd-CE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 21:42:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55837 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OA6y4-0003ZJ-OF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:42:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1OA6wv-0003VS-Br for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34313 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OA6wt-0003RI-96 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:41:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA6wr-00047Q-I1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com ([209.85.161.41]:40956) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA6wr-00047J-Bh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:41:29 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so280708fxm.0 for ; Thu, 06 May 2010 12:41:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8OrRfRsnba99Bslua8dYXi2H+iGMd3D3uEDlYhr7uJc=; b=VMNrlNDrd+WvegmqRf8PgB9w+/b9r62XoLgiLulop8xzSNBdobbyQVKvoBk70lBxyA 7MV9gyo5TAAkA1+Hm2bsAmN5uwRp2NsOT5E+Q4XDUSQ67r2abOSznISV43ADNBu+un1G UpiFgEvTHeUWEZ7UtOCP+MSxTMzgxk6S3FdME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gpPzTx8fbVlvcWnfJ+sWbPNIPVmBc4iVIir3kVT5XYkl1H93bZrY1G+de5VSKUG8k0 obuxSQYvHdd1skYU8VnFs0I8E5o3lHEAw183GJBycudCSAsJk6zYs/rgljBDeXKfgozE +kJkjyBc8SuTLanDz6jp33xc+xmLaNAV4H7BE= Original-Received: by 10.239.188.19 with SMTP id n19mr742854hbh.192.1273174888119; Thu, 06 May 2010 12:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Thu, 6 May 2010 12:41:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:73518 Archived-At: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Xah Lee wrote: > > I think this Meta+Tab conflict with Alt+Tab used by Windows, Mac, > Linux, is a major emacs usability problem. It forces people to make a > choice between a =E2=80=9Cemacs world=E2=80=9D and all others. In the pas= t when i > asked what other heavy emacs users do, seems they either have > completely alterted their keyboard shortcuts on their system so that > emacs's way prevales, or simply doesn't do anything about it, and just > press Esc Tab for completion. In the patched version of Emacs+EmacsW32 the Emacs Meta key can be moved from Alt to the Windows keys. That is actually what I recommend and use. This of course conflicts with the normal use of the Windows keys. The Windows keys are however possible to override with standard microsoft api:s while overriding Alt+Tab is not possible that way. Another reason for moving Emacs Meta from Alt to the Windows keys is of course that the Alt key is used far more often than the Windows keys.