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From: "Nuno Silva" <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fixing news-mail gateway [Was: Re: Newsgroups mailing-list gateway broken thread]
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:47:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pqc5m5$hd7$1@news.albasani.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2398.1539890933.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

On 2018-10-18, Garreau, Alexandre wrote:

> On 2018-10-18 at 12:44, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> This is a deja vu as we have discussed this before.  This link jumps
>> right into some detail from that previous discussion.
>>
>>  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2016-06/msg00147.html
>>
>> Of course the web email address redactor with all of the address
>> hidden redactions make reading that on the web quite difficult.  One
>> could ftp down the mailbox and then have the full mailbox of messages.
>>
>> AFAICT messages through the Stanford newsgroup to email relay do not
>> include the In-Reply-To header and therefore break threading.  A
>> message may have the References header with information about previous
>> messages in the thread causing the message to thread before where it
>> should thread, and if only one deep them be completely disconnected
>> from the original thread.
>>
>> In the intervening two years since the previous discussion nothing
>> substantial has happened.
>
> So I was right, it is the news-mail interface, and it is in standford,
> so now the question is: who to contact? is that GNU people?
>
> Maybe to <action@cs.stanford.edu> as “X-Complaints-To” header suggests?
> or <root@usenet.stanford.edu>?

I might be wrong, but it looks like the In-reply-to header *is* sent,
but the message-ids are being rewritten somewhere, so one message can
end up with two different message-ids, and threading by In-reply-to will
not work as expected. The "Message not available" entries in the web
archive are probably those message-ids.

Alexandre, did you send the post I am replying to through USENET as
well? It has the following In-Reply-To:

In-Reply-To: <20181018121955500722783@bob.proulx.com> (Bob Proulx's message of
	"Thu, 18 Oct 2018 12:44:57 -0600")

-- 
Nuno Silva


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-19  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17 22:21 Newsgroups mailing-list gateway broken thread Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-18 10:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-18 16:57   ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-18 18:44     ` Bob Proulx
2018-10-18 19:24       ` Fixing news-mail gateway [Was: Re: Newsgroups mailing-list gateway broken thread] Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-21  3:39         ` Who to contact about the gateway [Was: Re: Fixing news-mail gateway [Was: Re: Newsgroups mailing-list gateway broken thread]] Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-21  4:11           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2530.1540095533.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-21 13:49             ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-21 17:39               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.2398.1539890933.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-19  8:47         ` Nuno Silva [this message]
2018-10-19 18:48           ` Fixing news-mail gateway [Was: Re: Newsgroups mailing-list gateway broken thread] Bob Proulx
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2463.1539974929.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-19 19:12             ` Nuno Silva
2018-10-21  3:11           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-19 10:17       ` Newsgroups mailing-list gateway broken thread Emanuel Berg
2018-10-19 10:33         ` Nuno Silva
2018-10-19 12:32           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-19 19:02           ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2466.1539975763.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-19 19:38             ` Nuno Silva
2018-10-21  3:13               ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-21  3:17           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-21  9:06             ` Nuno Silva
2018-10-19 18:50         ` Bob Proulx
2018-10-19 20:34           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-19 15:07       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2380.1539881862.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-18 18:37     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-18 19:28       ` Garreau, Alexandre

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