From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Using gnutls.c by default Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:16:44 +0200 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: References: <8739kxvvc6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DBF352E.4010103@gmail.com> <87oc3hh1if.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d3jxz1q0.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304605033 22769 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2011 14:17:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:17:13 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 05 16:17:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHzMb-0008Hl-C1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 16:17:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48761 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHzMY-0001lF-99 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:17:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHzMR-0001l2-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHzMQ-0007Bk-Mc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:16:59 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHzMQ-0007Ba-8s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:16:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHzMP-0008AY-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 16:16:57 +0200 Original-Received: from lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net ([81.56.191.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 16:16:57 +0200 Original-Received: from rpluim by lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 16:16:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:18dnNbTWTQ3rZlJ0dbt1vIJyPDw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139154 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 5 May 2011 13:57:48 +0200 Juanma Barranquero wrote: > > JB> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 13:50, Andy Moreton wrote: >>> It would be better to wait a week or two until there has been some >>> feedback about use of GnuTLS on Win32. > > JB> We're talking about the trunk. Supporting GnuTLS by default is what > JB> will give us feedback, at least on Windows, where (much) fewer people > JB> is expected to build their own Emacs. > > So far it's 5 to 1 votes in favor; I think it's badly needed on W32 > where there are serious problems with the alternatives to GnuTLS. > > Note that the user still has to (require 'gnutls) to use it. We're just > adding the library support to Emacs. Without (require 'gnutls) > `open-network-stream' won't use `gnutls-negotiate'. Oh, I thought Lars was proposing to go further than that, and always use GnuTLS if available. Makes no difference to my opinion, GnuTLS works for me :) Robert