From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Garreau\, Alexandre" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 03:42:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ha3s71mt.fsf@debian.uxu> <87tx7rsevi.fsf@debian.uxu> <8738fbscao.fsf@debian.uxu> <8738f8w988.fsf@debian.uxu> <8761k3vj2y.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1402969368 325 80.91.229.3 (17 Jun 2014 01:42:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 17 03:42:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwiQ7-0007pb-AP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 03:42:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwiQ6-0003tK-TV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:42:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60927) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwiPp-0003tB-WB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwiPl-0001pm-7u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: from bar75-1-78-192-124-148.fbxo.proxad.net ([78.192.124.148]:48462 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwiPk-0001pf-U5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:42:21 -0400 Original-Received: from PC-713 (71.45.142.88.rev.sfr.net [88.142.45.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: galex-713) by galex-713.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6788615F7ED; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 03:42:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=galex-713.eu; s=dkim; t=1402969339; bh=ahab+5SLCWFfRFCb0PsPppXEtZXePsP9qu04nP8wV/w=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=W6aJ/JbHDDCz8npnJUPvMfnKd/aYuGJVuf9mf1PoFipL1lkP55rzcmcJJvlwZJFfQ nSH3WkVy8G3rkn9g9JlU3EQHK23b7jYdH6BPTvanspCQI9+/OKigz4j52+IiUrJMdC teVn1dnNR0oPyfqON+2Ys8HGEHy93oOuIn+2uMEg= User-Agent: Gnus (5.13), GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAMAAABg3Am1AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAADBQ TFRFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQEBAQEBAgICBAQEFRUV////////////////////////2mBkLQAA ABB0Uk5TAAAAAAAAAAABCU2g0Pr+/CTJwSkAAAABYktHRACIBR1IAAABkUlEQVRIx82W0XLEIAhF nbx5QfP/f1sVUVSStvvSOrObrOEI1yBsuH45wl8AAHEdRMD3QDHOZjDhFQClvI20IRaIYl5Wvdu1 e0uIPgDWBVGuhYW6ZHhAsxf/5Y6ofCTKlQjWPsl8cZBRvlhCQbJEMPY6S9U2coupE7R7iMa+rkgN o/FmDg0Y8fSI1qljl5CGf3Gm0p8A414dtBuOPlAcTO+koVi3G7A4SOMHeTGFHi2OiB5khx7sZSXH eU8PwCKZjJxDdpB5K9kNbwGMhJY386kTkwB39NcsP294QDKS7caYPfYB5NeRDg30DvAO1AgSL8PM TGBsK+UjZHPwJqAvrkre970WEDgAq2TeU2FkIE1ARZDzYkcG6is16d0kH0DspwJml/oBQnbPpGRg 08fLEfUkz2xBXoCWAp5kzcBicFtAcwIeUGVzW9AAkaROu4DUdCxAL8V+l5JyvAG2GO8e5MkO2HJ/ NCXGdQLSCbYOZRrKCVwR2rJquUbtpmm2rNhmH5tiSj9oih+03Q8a+z/4c/IFGNsy9Qwqrr0AAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-Home-Page: https://www.galex-713.eu X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: E109 9988 4197 D7CB B0BC 5C23 8DEB 24BA 867D 3F7F X-GPG: 0x8DEB24BA867D3F7F X-Accept-Language: fr, it, en In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Sat, 14 Jun 2014 21:51:43 +0700") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 78.192.124.148 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98291 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-06-14 at 16:51, Yuri Khan wrote: > The GCC error messages in the en_US.utf8 locale, on the other hand, do > use curly quotes. Indeed, just because =E2=80=9Ccomputer English=E2=80=9D is made for compute= rs, not human beings, who prefer to have readable text, just like it was before typewriters. > OK, I do not suggest that Perl should drop its backtick operator or > that computer languages universally start using curly quotes for > character and string literals (although that would make many languages > more elegant by simplifying parsing). But how about we reserve all > these artificial characters for computer languages, one of which > English is not. Having more language neutral programming languages would be cool, even languages based on semantic interpretation of binary data that would move the complexity of syntactic representation of its content from data toward editor would be really more useful, clean, simple, egalitarian, etc. > Otherwise, primarily, the material will be read by a human being, and > only secondarily in a computer program. I wish for a future where the > Web replaces the printed book, therefore, the Web must do all things > books do, and then some. I hope that by =E2=80=9Cthe Web=E2=80=9D you mean =E2=80=9Cthe concept of t= he ensemble of linked interpreted documents to read shared by the medium of computer networks and read on computers interfaces=E2=80=9D, not the poor current implementat= ion of it, which is still using obsolete and despotic client=E2=80=93server mod= el (, ). > Yes, LaTeX does a lot to produce a beautifully typeset printout from > an ASCII source. This is not enough; I want that same beautiful > typesetting on screen, in browser, in any page width I happen to have, > in my favorite typeface and font size, without having to recompile the > document. And at the same time, it does too much. It has to maintain, > and document authors have to utilize, a multitude of workarounds that > are caused by TeX not using Unicode internally. Having something technically and typographically good like LaTeX, semantic and interpreted like HTML and language-neutral like markdown/any-binary-interpreted-format would be great. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTn5z0XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFMTA5OTk4ODQxOTdEN0NCQjBCQzVDMjM4 REVCMjRCQTg2N0QzRjdGAAoJEI3rJLqGfT9/g5wP/3+ILpkATYUXqxf4/0bFeCd8 tb9iv+2Au82e+jpxFEWmH0Lj8iRjTFrcyaIMHmNHpioDecS6XVUxHZAn8JtZjarz JfuGMYkzkXF91eqSnqsXPNacfCBPepitcXs5i9gFBhHGnT+TR1UTPk5Fl29Boe+0 G8iDFpPNslJSl9UX/gsU8OGkToRlj9V0n9kmm4Vv/LbMWP617yOKEwcmYxA0zaHL r/Kv4fnPv1rdSRW1WtouKd1RMa8104Lffr3OQ6ZN1I1mak6lg05XzbVgW4qQWgi8 0EfVc5GSso6zH0PCgeMBTJ/6Lxw5afuyM6WU/g2OjBDN0U2F+z7BOLDGKpTJ/N7N sodIMD3lHVkEbvBYBeyyobRM7QKIdYkTgxPmBazFzJauTZVG5XKxdeaCB20cxzEW RgdbRDRcw/TQVdO/vkayj++IeeayU2JBhtikGoxm0ZqRNjkjWLkGbuUXkoSDI27j wQ4VzZa0MAo0ggfsQpLOefJ82Fz4ITthlda3/KzBuACIEXGYwkhPSBB9ezZGOzk+ BUkIzulSr0CzcgwfCpWr4zUvNIeyvNJets0iwGoUt1X3RQLc4z0hWukH5AKotiEY DZ1TWI3ViQUONluLLuUJQFuuuM24xUXa4+4tdJTNvGO8VF3q1x/vKAkQ3aJI3AY7 QILqQzjaVtY+y/JBXZts =8Qv2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--