From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On elisp running native - Update 12 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:03:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <83o8uegykm.fsf@gnu.org> <74dd94a9-28cb-a5fd-dbc7-ab21009834ad@cs.ucla.edu> <7wblhq2ir5.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb18030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8406"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Brinkhoff Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 28 16:05:51 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMtmp-00024H-0i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:05:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49442 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMtmo-0006bO-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMtl2-0005bC-Ia for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-x533.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::533]:34495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMtky-0000w5-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x533.google.com with SMTP id u24so979656pgi.1 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:03:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2JvGlhSONcCQcKbCz7EFK9KwSfkJ9PgP2Fcsh4uIXWU=; b=OeKi4RrFTYdwF5f3VnUeG3+Zsp82IV3Lq7tp6rkw+UPMeyVguY8gm1Rh8gC87Q52yL ZVCBM4qbbAyMYmPrKRs4j/fDDyfTK2WUX9GKR5SO73wMmzl44hYu43nrmnG2ijjUYCJT fzQ5FxmiDo+k2mRvXbkFJBnsb4f7EijnWTIFI4k+PPDKA3WoMPe6EgvA/7SPDPjUWEC9 Zmz74MauLFeXi9pc+/WYG1Rh+FPJPlp9KOB0q+TkaA4lEbfyZ3iXbCuJQIcz+e0ncIgq YmmMr8SzThVeWZnadb0Zk2rabBHuJ4dPFB4MnOaLWFgZNZ3wBW8Q/fkFe6mz+7HaUVEB JL7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2JvGlhSONcCQcKbCz7EFK9KwSfkJ9PgP2Fcsh4uIXWU=; b=hORq6X2W0CeCyd+2/V+wnS6wPDTU8Zvb7jcNE15/97WgNFB4ZY49ciCR5zBCKmv3ir 60oU56bcuIjGB9jWoyRm6f+Vev/27QOhpwm0ZLGRV28hSBIGkaEOWQPyiv+4Y50GBd7E 84Eb8QTUNxh3evilvS/LTLqdigbTFJoyEL83fMqDKKG/dKAk3ydJWU94FoPtYi4A6jsI yDaWuFLExefP8xYyF2p9xnKEpdYnEPVEj6a7JR1+SLQ2UPTKkctDHjamfoZGe3vhv1Nl VqhldxJYQww5wGnfHlAcFswwQ5dO38qc7TQ6mi9hhUYOhvAjD+hf0tcxbbLh6ESyfCHn ijOg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530jCMYbugkQ/v6uwbQ9FtezCzRX7hX8OMVDLQqTKOhF/jBly+et ZmYQQrfapZBOUQy41AzK6vHEc3OEbTHlf08J X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyQ4NONYPBAKKpP27cW/3cHL1W0MzJsNHHHHocEc+XHVp8lGnkWHUBabo3EO6ElRl1YieM96A== X-Received: by 2002:a63:fd03:: with SMTP id d3mr1221164pgh.201.1601301833375; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from raman-glaptop.localdomain (c-24-4-174-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. 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X-Spam_score_int: -180 X-Spam_score: -18.1 X-Spam_bar: ------------------ X-Spam_report: (-18.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.468, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256596 Archived-At: Lars Brinkhoff writes: Thanks for the explanation, > T.V Raman wrote: >> Andrea Corallo wrote: >>> ATM `cl-declaim' (as `cl-proclaim') are not effective regarding the >>> speed parameter of the native compiler. To a quick look to the >>> HyperSpec I guess `cl-declaim' should just set `comp-speed' other >>> than what is already doing, shall do it. >> to be honest I never could remember the difference between cl-declaim >> and cl-proclaim when I used Common Lisp heavily. > > In Common Lisp PROCLAIM is just a function so will only have an effect > when it's called, typically at load time or run time. When DECLAIM > appears at top level, the compiler should take notice and update its > state at compile time. > > --=20 Thanks, --Raman =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8