From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: use-short-answers, and yes/no questions Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2024 08:33:16 -0800 Message-ID: References: <86o7bxoz4s.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk7wpr9i.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5ngpps5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27003"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 02 17:33:49 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rgSJ3-0006uH-E4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 17:33:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgSIg-0001JF-5E; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:33:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgSId-0001Iw-3h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:33:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x632.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::632]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgSIb-0008J2-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:33:22 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x632.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1dca160163dso30779565ad.3 for ; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 08:33:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20230601; t=1709397199; x=1710001999; darn=gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zt5wd837daMTZjkiLvPzyZ/f68ljc5D45uO7m/tMKqE=; b=na8yo9zwFSfqqgHu6PZDJrveySibX3Q6y8VRuS/6NOI1e592Y0DAPOvRrwQ5rg/acQ 68vfWo65SqnpMONHDjh24vabBqETJkhGb4ErCgF4rRdVN7+n8uchwk+8Me7st9f4tSOt a52WeQPfZHGRoHBN+HSXOXGwZVLnuEG+P34+TuX/gtT2N4az7cTSZ3m5Oa8F0fX55+h/ v1IBID9IC+BuxLD2zzQAMy1cXvz+HKjgySGlUB56EDcCR7UbT8b2rIpafRHQC48IbHLZ mXQvoxqXwkhjtNhOC4GCVfy6Xd+a52kIsxIUWovBZCiUXh9DNBCW0yGPYX6RB9/Fccnl GHVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709397199; x=1710001999; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=zt5wd837daMTZjkiLvPzyZ/f68ljc5D45uO7m/tMKqE=; b=JDwt/Elol470yAWcsESF3WwtddKAM2QnFZFqRdZw3234HVD8LqCb1VqeBPiaF9jEi6 s+QzAeb56HnoYGRw2s7TEQ8dGEPDSEG2weQlb1Xnkn4lpieOIV9qYuey3WVlmTn3i2k9 QjadpBQ4eodPbi58JHxP4VZUAnxCTaSMNyQvGLBtZlVhmdND1PdFq7xsFLPhV/2Rjrfu +OxPHkbLk4aUKI7wy5s/44PYJ6diiTXszCQm+Y+DQ880AHJoMymXK2/T0XLvve8tsVUY pJ+vmBXUpHfDCdLgTnOm4UKFPzw8UQAvo65Oj07Ztkk2bdyd3SSC6Jv6IUoTP0BCQgQL cGKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx0RyEv7vVgRVJBqy9NGeK3jbK0lwZQgZ0e721067eXMNyoQcOB wRSM+32N1UJKEeUUoxFAXRL748uv4rZvyV3YHNhZmLAhdmxo8+8dVAfvMI4QBu0JtNIqpOWy53q lWw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF/83BweKuWqKwMnzhGsiuWU+xidyQYCaT21/7JX9g9YnpzAff23WjJBYwVoq1OZqZw9xA0XQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:f7ce:b0:1db:b69a:3fb9 with SMTP id h14-20020a170902f7ce00b001dbb69a3fb9mr4489377plw.25.1709397199210; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 08:33:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from raman9 (c-98-45-12-92.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316702 Archived-At: I suspect there is a package somewhere in my full setup that is the actual culprit, but at least I have a fix for now. Will continue to track it, I just got lucky in finding the fix as follows: 1. debug-on-entry y-or-n-p 2. Called y-or-n-p 3. Entered debugger. 4. That in turn called y-or-n-p because of something in emacspeak 5. And there in the debugger session, '"y" without enter or anything else worked. 6. Then I checked the state of the world in edebug and found that var --