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From: "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>
To: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: Supported/Bundled CSV  support?
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 07:05:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p91v8wfcnvj.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AAE351FB-C12A-4CB6-B20C-171BA5BA0360@aol.com> (Ergus's message of "Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:36:27 +0100")

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Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:


A couple more thoughts around why we may want built-in CSV support:

1. Over the last few years, emacs has incorporated built-in support for:

A. xml --- libxml
B. json --- libjs
C. We're now talking sqlite

Not having CSV builtin feels like ignoring what is in plain-sight.

I think having built-in CSV support that abstracts away the various
details of parsing the various CSV variants will allow the emacs Dev
community to focus on user solutions  e.g.:

A. Seamless data import/export
B. Support the processing of larger amounts of data via org-table and the like
C. Json support vastly sped up modules like lsp and eglot; I'd expect
   the same once we cross the chasm with respect to making CSV support
   a built-in detail that elisp developers can take for granted.
> Just an idea/question:
>
> With the new Lars package vtable may be possible to support CSV or add
> a package over it?
>
> I agree it is a bit annoying to depend of an external package for such
> a simple format and maybe the implementation may be simpler than
> expected as the format it pretty simple in general.
>
> WDYT?
>
> On March 14, 2022 11:30:43 PM GMT+01:00, Stefan Monnier
> <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
>     Languages like Python work around this with a csv module that
>     comes
> bundled; Emacs has a couple of modules out on elpa/melpa all of which
> look old.
>
> Don't know about Melpa, but in (Non)GNU ELPA, I can only find one such
> package and it dates back to Dec 2021.
>
>         Stefan

-- 

Thanks,

--Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research)
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-15 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-14 22:15 Supported/Bundled CSV support? T.V Raman
2022-03-14 22:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-15  7:36   ` Ergus
2022-03-15 14:05     ` T.V Raman [this message]
2022-03-15 14:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-15 15:27         ` T.V Raman
2022-03-16 13:43   ` Joost
2022-03-16 14:46     ` T.V Raman
2022-03-16 18:49     ` Stefan Monnier

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