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[24.4.174.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d12sm12663579pfn.42.2018.02.20.19.48.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 20 Feb 2018 19:48:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Tue, 20 Feb 2018 12:35:27 -0800") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222953 Archived-At: Also the documentation for variable package-enable-at-startup may need updating, present doc-string no longer feels right: package-enable-at-startup is a variable defined in `package.el'. Its value is nil Original value was t Documentation: Whether to activate installed packages when Emacs starts. If non-nil, packages are activated after reading the init file and before `after-init-hook'. Activation is not done if `user-init-file' is nil (e.g. Emacs was started with "-q"). Even if the value is nil, you can type M-x package-initialize to activate the package system at any time. You can customize this variable. This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in version 24.1 of Emacs. --