From: raman <raman@google.com>
To: Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Casting as wide a net as possible
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:21:53 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p91oadtatlq.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <866101faeo.fsf@gmail.com> (Adrian B. Robert's message of "Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:05:19 +0200")
Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com writes:
And a couple more:
1. All content is structure aware --- so the same set of navigation /
cut/copy commands work across a wide variety of content. Lacking this,
other environments force users to select based on what they see on the
screen with a mouse -- and though that might give instant gratification,
it breaks down when the unit of information you want doesn't fit on the
screen.
2. That all content is in a single consistent environment makes sharing
content across various purposes easy -- write some code, copy a piece
that is causing problems into a chat/mail buffer, get a response --
easily paste it back (except when some WebApp at the other end ruins it
with non-breaking invisible spaces -- but I digress).
>
>>>>>>> Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>>
>>> My only point is that Lisp features really do make Emacs what it is. To
>>> point out what Emacs is necessarily means pointing out some of those
>>> features (IMO).
>>
>> I agree. The things that make Emacs great:
>>
>> 1. Highly consistent syntax.
>> 2. Self-documenting.
>> 3. Integrated debugger.
>> 4. Ability to re-evaluate functions in a running environment.
>> (i.e., everything that made Lisp Machines great)
>> 5. Natural syntax for scoping resources (`with-temp-buffer ...')
>> 6. Large and well documented API
>> 7. Stable and mature concepts evolved over decades
>> 8. Huge, HUGE community of cargo-cultable examples, for those just learning
>
> These are all good, but, aside from #2 and #3, relatively deep and
> sophisticated. The simpler aspects that keep driving me back to use Emacs
> even as good IDEs and other tools proliferate, and the reasons I encourage
> others to try it:
>
> 1. Do things that often *can't be done* in other editors:
> - *everything* from the keyboard
> - fast, low-overhead keyboard navigation (faster than any IDE)
> - split windows for multiple spots in file or multiple files
> - clean, complete l10n handling
> - regex search/replace
> - keyboard macros
>
> 2. Do things *more easily* than other editors
> - discovery: M-x command completion and shortcut hinting (part
> of self-documenting, means can learn to use keyboard easily)
> - swiss-army knife: learn once, edit many types of content
> (rather than dealing with a new tool for every job)
> - works same on any desktop box
> - works same on remote *nix machines as in a local desktop
> (rather than suffering with vi etc.)
> - emacsclient (big when working with command-line shells in a
> desktop environment)
>
> 3. Better *customization* than other editors
> - menu options plus straightforward simple customization
> - full programmability for complex cases
> - *easily* migrate customization from environment to environment
>
>
> Overall, due to excellent design philosophy and a highly extensible
> foundation, Emacs delivers an unparalleled environment for focusing on what
> you want to do, rather than spending time fiddling and fighting with your
> tools.
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-14 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-10 16:46 Casting as wide a net as possible (was: First draft of the Emacs website) John Yates
2015-12-10 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:56 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-10 19:02 ` Casting as wide a net as possible John Wiegley
2015-12-10 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 19:48 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:17 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:19 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:50 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-11 7:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-10 19:54 ` covici
2015-12-10 21:21 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-12-14 13:05 ` Adrian.B.Robert
2015-12-14 16:21 ` raman [this message]
2015-12-14 18:21 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-11 7:08 ` Casting as wide a net as possible (was: First draft of the Emacs website) Richard Stallman
2015-12-11 16:14 ` Casting as wide a net as possible raman
2015-12-14 14:41 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-14 15:01 ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-14 17:20 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-14 17:59 ` Random832
2015-12-14 18:19 ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-15 18:12 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-15 18:54 ` Random832
2015-12-15 19:03 ` Random832
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[not found] ` <<fa45f69a-b8df-46f8-8fda-4735dc34e4dc@default>
[not found] ` <<m2d1uenn4h.fsf@newartisans.com>
[not found] ` <<83a8pi9l6o.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-10 19:15 ` Drew Adams
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