From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: raman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Continuous integration Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:22:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87a88emy62.fsf@luca> <87k27h8ncd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8737e5uoyd.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87d1d8ul7q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <22740.454.818489.461885@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <87h92jswrk.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83246C10-FB82-4BE0-80F7-A56F9A12951C@gmail.com> <87bmsrc64p.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1490369024 19852 195.159.176.226 (24 Mar 2017 15:23:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:23:44 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Chad Brown , Toon Claes , emacs-devel To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 24 16:23:40 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1crR3u-00048L-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 16:23:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crR40-0002Rl-Bp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:23:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49079) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crR36-0002Oa-Fy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crR31-0007kx-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:22:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c05::229]:35182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crR31-0007ke-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg0-x229.google.com with SMTP id t143so2620425pgb.2 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:22:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=fUyTTZpInS9VIDLvyGqOgc2jUov7D9GqMSeCw7mH2pc=; b=T2D7djqJW0bNGWdOGXv0dee4QQxJbTcleFJ09/lxHRhWiaJJaynX+4a8IvWYvYm42/ gmQ3yxpObHqK5/IZ9DkJjcx3YlQgiZhHGgEZkX4MeTkbs3X+bb31YySarA/3IK4SRkX9 Q6m1zolNA53+Jv30MeMr9vk5ipkKDpKjwUjYoLqzVqtrgirv+Tsh3ZeuxmbdC/rMrDpB kmmkPoJxJYnPVhrBHq9BlZQ2KjKKgCgeHJkSNe5DwksElcP+/pOQydrI1XSZhPRbTzga oG8AkgCFx5eQZjIedxFnzOJ9yEA9j9Ssu+NciztAB9C7porX6RJkhBsUu/4rlrh+CdK1 HtTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=fUyTTZpInS9VIDLvyGqOgc2jUov7D9GqMSeCw7mH2pc=; b=ggq/0UAFHtmJWgVrJw/1Z3Kh2hbSDXPJHSI9bh294g74PQZKhNHH5XK6fP1qZg12ED RlSE0HM5AN+f+85F4xK+75qxww7wAb4/3SPAcYG8FvuVDL8BoXDQQztTuYbyWzvBda/e ym1VEaVCdlR1wrSMbyeeqjVvowf/8drZM1tlahi5yN/DkCS3UjVxatXajJdxjanwJflv OPBTZ9NjJ3ht7qL8ZnCe71vxfRLD/YG+GcmqCbvZ+sZoCC16lr9t4RUC2ZtQhDEtc49X DW6eysV3NUpC0f01xeELfdHM+PjHKNhTMO5Y1ADJGMb9LQFKyfLkF2oeJe4tufSE5p1x roYw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3tueVuo0bXhS4sKr/hYmMNr9zZV5g8FIQQHptXNDFcalenkV9mBTKeWb30CoYNhF+V X-Received: by 10.84.139.67 with SMTP id 61mr11406703plq.191.1490368958050; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from raman-glaptop2 ([207.198.106.187]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 19sm5439112pfo.50.2017.03.24.08.22.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:22:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bmsrc64p.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:37:42 +0000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:213300 Archived-At: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: I'd phrase the requirement slightly differently from what Phillip says below. "Functional" is really in the eye of the beholder -- most of the JS-based browser environments lack good APIs that keep the UI front-end separate from the app-logic back-end. So asking "does it work in EWW" itself may be a red-herring -- a well-designed system would let you implement a clean UI from the emacs end, eeither with or without EWW. For a good example of such API separation, see Ipython notebooks and how package ein in Emacs leverages that separation. > Chad Brown writes: > >>> On 23Mar, 2017, at 14:29, Toon Claes wrote: >>> >>> If you aware of tools that won't require the initial review through the >>> web interface, I really am interested to see how they work. >> >> Would someone with a functional setup for such a system (GitLab, >> etc.) be willing to check and see how functional it is in eww, please? >> (The only one I have easy access to is github, which is problematic >> for other reasons). > > > Both of them have online versions either as service or a demo. As far as > I can tell, neither of them are functional within eww. > > Ultimately, if our main criteria for a CI and code review system is > "does it work with EWW" or "can we have an emacs interface", then I > think that it's likely we are going to end up with something that is > poorly functional. Picking a good system and then making Emacs work with > it seems a better way forward. > > Phil > > --