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[73.170.121.60]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wh10sm35603362pab.2.2015.11.27.08.21.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:21:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:38:32 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195382 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: 1+. For the specific case of say a Turkish table in an English buffer, etc, Emacs' facilities of narrow-to-region etc can be used to advantage while applying language-specific processing. > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > So you will sort Turkish words in an otherwise English text according > > to English rules? And spell-check them using an English dictionary? > > I don't think so. > > You seem to be trying to design an ultimate, ideal current language > facility. We might want to get there eventually, but I think we > should start with something simple. After all, most buffers have only > one language in them. If there are a few words in another language, > the user probably won't find it hard to deal with the fact that Emacs > does not know they are in another language. > > Having a selectable language for the whole buffer > is going to be better than the current situation > where you can't select it. > > If you have a table in Turkish in the middle of a English document, > and you want to sort the table, you can switch the buffer to Turkish, > sort, and switch back to English. --