From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: raman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:26:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87383xk4ia.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> <87d22zi69k.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> <87a8xtoq3a.fsf@gmail.com> <87sibkemtw.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430236350 17658 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2015 15:52:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 15:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andy Moreton , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Oleh Krehel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 17:52:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7o5-0007CN-9u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:52:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34619 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7o4-0008Nn-Hs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:52:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49830) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7P4-0000Df-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7Oz-000302-SN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235]:34024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7Oz-0002zQ-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:26:25 -0400 Original-Received: by pacyx8 with SMTP id yx8so167634291pac.1 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:26:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=kUxYMIT1TjMqRb9KmyomBYQ/K3iZIeZqBR7CXTpSlNk=; b=Q+x3Msn+0g36xLA8I7fhtkSg7JwpLiqU6+MfNcQGjp/X1KUBo/z8kjOPz5KEZKfMFR HSEx8lzpWACXy9KU3htgnrqoKTKZFp8EtZse4WUR1F6V4/T3sLX8JNDefxxy+oye1F1d RicnHeC21pbj6cm/P2EM0QtSvhl8cKlpVydV8wTyj7jXn3PdDTAVzt2pFkTrT13XzZue 8O5XndmAXyOQx4l/9eRquv32z3ZkJ30IriQQ2V5nJLN5mnpXgKHPtNBG4O/11fdNzJ9M hbdWzHN18qNKJQxM03i2W61AEk6c2bzH0Yiro+PTY9n51YvLoBn4ogHlxGrsrKR6Vw3n ndaw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=kUxYMIT1TjMqRb9KmyomBYQ/K3iZIeZqBR7CXTpSlNk=; b=eQAnPILohO1ERAxsQW6g61KizW9O48Rd9MuApG5FoNIbAnS+w/VvJ98ckuY/0qeZjf mYxJqSxq054/8jj/eCYK0N4DTb6uYsleHAi4EiYrKTSP27107FpR7uG+ICnjEOl1LvTc AxSDKYu0cfW0cbwZzJ0S8URvzCAnj5TEKXKI5HgxRfuTY/vsoWrO86eWflaAK764jZOG ceEyg+EJL6Cb7yrIlYUpOJ6xOMDW0iKrHpmTtf/3FRNsb8vGalkaucVlKA+KSsJboJ51 L9GLMI8JjsCOEyViHs8r5rFGvO5LeWSRxVqAnPTauIAyNlfe/yMB8u0luUibClXGshq4 qthg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnU0LjrWqtM9PAiVbtRZLK+0LnqhGscoB+crZKvlBAUZjfX792G64dHdxx4x+hBV/iZR2tb X-Received: by 10.68.65.1 with SMTP id t1mr33263805pbs.63.1430234784116; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from raman-glaptop ([207.198.105.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ts4sm22708625pbc.41.2015.04.28.08.26.22 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:26:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87sibkemtw.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleh Krehel's message of "Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:25:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185970 Archived-At: This is a useful trick. I've set the value of custom-file early in my .emacs so custom writes its bits somewhere else. I'm very uncomfortable with the way custom works -- in the past couple of years, I've had to restore the .custom file from git because something in emacs corrupted the file. I've never been able to track down the root cause -- so I find anything that goes off to touch custom settings early on fairly disconcerting. --