From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: "T.V Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs raison d'etre Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 09:04:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <70bb51fd-447d-928c-4d69-1c9673a44471@online.de> <871rnnvmdx.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pnb7sira.fsf@red-bean.com> <87lflcg0k9.fsf@red-bean.com> <0f1cd319-fa8c-4453-b909-fdd36f337906@default> <87zh9scdf8.fsf@warpmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="39417"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: excalamus--- via "Emacs development discussions." , Karl Fogel , excalamus@tutanota.com, Andreas Roehler , Richard Stallman , Drew Adams To: "Philip K." 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[24.4.174.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s36sm4797642pgl.35.2020.05.28.09.04.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 May 2020 09:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by raman-glaptop.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 13930) id 37A18C22103; Thu, 28 May 2020 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zh9scdf8.fsf@warpmail.net> (Philip K.'s message of "Thu, 28 May 2020 17:00:27 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102a; envelope-from=raman@google.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102a.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -175 X-Spam_score: -17.6 X-Spam_bar: ----------------- X-Spam_report: (-17.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251553 Archived-At: "Philip K." writes: It's no more or no less intuitive than alt-F4 in "other platforms" that people often label intuitive without thinking about it. And for the record, the insert/replace key is a carry-over from DOS word-processors of the early 80's. > excalamus--- via "Emacs development discussions." writes: > >> What does C-g mean? Why the sequence C-g specifically? I think the >> disconnect may be that C-g appears outwardly meaningless. > > I always assumed it was because C-g, when inserted literally had the > same value as does the ASCII bell (BEL, or '\a' in C) character. When > you open the "ascii" man-page on G and BEL even appear on the same > line. So in some sense it's like C-m/C-i, that do the same as > return/tab. > > But I guess that's neither consistent, relavant or intuitive. --