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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269517 Archived-At: "OURY, JACOB DAVID" writes: glad someone is finally looking at this, dismal was my goto spreadsheet solution and I'd love to see it come back --- in its absence I use org-mode and its embedded functionality which is good enough for simple things, but dismal would complete the emacs suite. > Hi,=20 > > My name is Jacob Oury and I'm a doctoral candidate advised by Frank > Ritter (an original Dismal dev!) and I'm trying to get Dismal working > on the latest version of EMACS. I've found a few issues, and I'm > hoping you could provide some advice. I'll describe them below.=20 > > 1 I believe Dismal V1.5 is missing a key file for running dismal. Per > the description, the package should include a file called > dismal-mode-defaults.el, however this is not available in the > elpa.gnu package repo. I was able to work around this issue by > acquiring a previous version of Dismal from my advisor and manually > loading that file. Without that, I am unsure if I could get this > package running. Per the Git records at > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/log/?h=3Dexternals/dism= al, > it looks like that file was deleted in update below. I think this > may have broken the package and I'm hoping to find out why that file > was deleted.=20=20 > > author Stefan Monnier 2013-06-06 16:20:37=20 > -0400=20 > committer Stefan Monnier 2013-06-06 16:20:37=20 > -0400=20 > commit 554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56 (patch)=20 > tree c4b11570454318e4dba291c1732f18e8dc639a58=20 > parent 18a2365ebc31e03bce64aa45227a5e6f5e869bad (diff)=20 > download elpa-554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56.tar.gz=20 > General cleanup for GNU ELPA > 2 Once I got the defaults loaded, I also am running into issues during > testing (dis-test-dismal). It initially runs, however, the test > fails when trying to insert a simple math equation into a cell:=20 > > dis-edit-cell-plain((+ 2 3)) > > While running the test, the process fails with the message:=20 > "dismal-set-cell-internals: Symbol=A1=AFs value as variable is void: > index". I believe this may be due to some effect of the outdated > heaps.el package, however Frank's version of Dismal (Dismal V1.4 > running on Emacs 25.X, on MacOS) runs fine. I'm using a Windows > computer so that could play a role. When tracing the test through > the debugger, it fails immediately following a call to heap-empty > with the info shown below. I'm still figuring out the debugger, and > I don't have a more thorough printout of the trace at the moment.=20 > > Debugger entered--entering a function: > * command-error-default-function((void-variable index) "" > dismal-set-cell-internals) > recursive-edit() > ;;Debugger cleared most of its text once the void variable error > occurs, so the excerpts from immediately before the error are below > this line and the output from the debugger is above.=20 > * heap-empty([dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]]) > * heap-member((3 . 0) [dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]]) > * dismal-invalidate-cell((3 . 0)) > * dismal-set-cell-internals(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil) > * dismal-set-cell(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil) > * dismal-edit-cell((+ 2 3) nil) > > I'm an EMACS novice (I generally work on the experimental cognitive > psychology side of things while my labmates are more focused on using > ACT-R for cognitive models), and so I may have made some missteps > here, but I've been working with Frank during some debugging and still > not having any luck so I'd appreciate any and all help you could > provide on these issues. Thanks so much! > > Best regards,=20 > > Jacob D. Oury > Doctoral Candidate in Informatics > Applied Cognitive Science Lab > Penn State College of Information Sciences and Technology=20 > --=20 Thanks, --Raman =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8