From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's an even easier explanation how to setup gnus ... Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:36:45 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <5i61va9u7p.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqmzjvly.fsf@gmail.com> <985927b0-0d56-47f7-bfdb-ae1b1670d4b0@googlegroups.com> <87ppsqei8w.fsf@motoko.kusanagi> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378212550 7528 80.91.229.3 (3 Sep 2013 12:49:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 12:49:10 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 03 14:49:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGq2d-0002OT-1F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:49:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45621 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGq2c-00006y-MP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:49:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55225) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGpty-00068t-Qg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGptt-00007D-AZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGptt-000065-3k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGpts-000593-2x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from g224135091.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.224.135.91]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by g224135091.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:40:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: g224135091.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KwaoYslz5XWHBNwcUsuwBmtZP0w= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93215 Archived-At: wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) writes: > Rustom Mody writes: > >> On Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:56:04 AM UTC+5:30, W. Greenhouse wrote: >>> >>> My grandmother (and presumably many people's grandparents) used >>> computers for work, and they were command-line based with monochrome >>> displays. Why assume that touchscreen GUIs are inherently intuitive? >>> (Hint: the fact that they don't come with manuals is not evidence of this). >> >> Not sure what you are saying. It appears to me that the definition of >> intuitive' is exactly this -- not needing study. See for example: >> http://vocabulary-vocabulary.com/dictionary/intuitive.php > > But modern GUIs do require study and experience to develop facility with > them. They just don't come with documentation, meaning that the study > is by rote only. > Now you're being silly and "1337". Of course GUIs need some understanding but sensible design, relevant icons etc make it a LOT easier for most than arbitrary command line commands and flags and bash pipeline knowledge. -- Sent using Emacs/Gnus from home ...