From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: DougC Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: program to compute gears, with table Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 00:42:38 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <86bmmlu54a.fsf@zoho.com> <86pob1rsbx.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506145530 26486 195.159.176.226 (23 Sep 2017 05:45:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 05:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 05:42:37 -0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 23 07:45:22 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvdFe-0006IQ-LL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 07:45:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvdFl-0000tq-Vv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 01:45:26 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,rec.bicycles.tech Original-Lines: 27 Original-Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="75f492957aed0b42c9e7671856f57abf"; logging-data="20278"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/c4hUvV+gyMChYO8oRk/93RGViuMG+9dM=" In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Cancel-Lock: sha1:6wMftRWbuvSfjzs75VhceTcLhPI= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:220247 rec.bicycles.tech:1004388 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114353 Archived-At: On 9/9/2017 9:06 PM, David Scheidt wrote: ,,, > > On my mac at work, from the time I double click the excel icon to the > time it is ready to do work is over a minute. It's a modern machine, > running an old version of excel. The windows machine I have, but > never use, which is more powerful, and running a current version, > takes even longer. It does have a spinny disk, and not an ssd. > (that's not counting the time to takes to boot up, since it's off.) > Your Mac/PC/Excel experience seems slow. I don't use Office at work and use LibreOffice at home now, so I don't really know how bad the rental version of MS Office is these days. I have not written nor used a CLI program in many years. I'd rather do it in a GUI (Visual Basic) just for the copy & paste ability that comes along for free. PCs are so big and fast now that there's little point in worrying about saving a few kilobytes--or even, a few hundreds of kilobytes. And arguing that a CLI is somehow "better" than a GUI is like arguing that a well and an outhouse are somehow "better" than indoor plumbing. Also I have written programs in the past and not included any help files, and then forgotten how to use them. With the VB programs, I put in a few help buttons + message boxes that explain how to use the thing, so the help can't ever get separated from the program it goes with...