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From: "Alexandre Oberlin" <email_via@migo.info>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:35:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.ya8ixqk1dhe6zj@tournesol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2334.1452780465.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:07:03 +0100, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> So please provide a detailed recipe to reproduce the problem (and send
> it to M-x report-emacs-bug).
It might not conform to the "philosophy" behind transient-mark-mode, but  
in GNU Emacs 24.5.1 kill-region DOES CONSISTENTLY kill an invisible  
(unactivated) region, also when transient-mark-mode is  enabled, and even  
if delete-selection-mode is off. However, I personally have usually no  
problem with that, since it is stable and the intent is killing text  
anyway: you just can type C-x C-x to be sure. On the other hand, I DID  
(several years ago already) and STILL DO have problems with the similar  
pasting issue, which is NOT stable.

To get an invisible region while transient-mark-mode is OFF (that is
"(transient-mark-mode -1)" in .emacs):
1. Open a file
2. Type CTRL+SPACE ONCE
3. Move the cursor with an arrow key
4. Type CTRL+W
The invisible region gets killed, whatever the value of  
delete-selection-mode.

To get an invisible region while transient-mark-mode is ON (that is
"(transient-mark-mode +1)" in .emacs):
1. Open a file
2. Type CTRL+SPACE TWICE
3. Move the cursor with an arrow key
4. Type CTRL+W
The invisible region gets killed, whatever the value of  
delete-selection-mode.

As already repeated, the behavior with pasting is NOT consistent. There  
seems to be one state where it overwrites, and another state where it  
doesn’t, while in both states transient-mark-mode is OFF and  
delete-selection-mode is ON. I am not aware of any way to reliably change  
 from one state to the other.


Cheers,

Alexandre


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-14 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-24  1:01 Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text Alexandre Oberlin
2015-12-24  1:37 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-24 13:27   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2015-12-24 23:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-25  1:18     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]     ` <mailman.529.1451006347.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 21:40       ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 22:03         ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1550.1451772215.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 22:28           ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 23:04             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1551.1451775915.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03  0:11               ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-03  0:28                 ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1554.1451780942.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03  0:41                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-03  1:07                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03  2:10                     ` Robert Thorpe
2016-01-03  2:11                 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  2:25                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03  3:10                   ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  3:21                     ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  4:09                 ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-03  5:08                   ` Random832
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.1572.1451797753.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:13                     ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 14:07                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2334.1452780465.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 15:35                         ` Alexandre Oberlin [this message]
2016-01-14 16:11                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 17:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 16:36                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-14 16:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2341.1452787916.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 16:45                             ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 17:05                               ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 19:37                           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2359.1452800411.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 23:41                             ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1570.1451794187.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 16:42                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-13 17:54                     ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2302.1452707668.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 13:57                       ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1564.1451787927.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:26                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]     ` <mailman.528.1450998293.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 14:00       ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 15:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-24  5:48 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-24 14:40 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-12-27 22:15 ` Robert Thorpe

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