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From: "Adam Wołk" <netprobe@gmail.com>
To: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>,
	ferkiwi+a@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why Emacs should have a good web-browser
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:26:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.uxfmxodrbf5wq6@inferno.interq.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e01d8a50907211201md83c6d5j20ca342a2e6eeed6@mail.gmail.com>

Dnia 21-07-2009 o 21:01:21 Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>  
napisał(a):

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Adam Wołk<netprobe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Benefits of helping out with this project:
>> * Conkeror can be fully controlled from withing emacs using mozrepl
>
> Please explain in what way it is better to use Conkeror than Firefox for  
> this.

If You refer to mozrepl and scripting only. Then I would assume that  
concepts taken from Emacs and implemented in conkeror will make it a more  
natural platform to extend for current Emacs users. Unfortunately this is  
a wild guess on my part as I really haven't tried to code for either  
platform (conkeror and Firefox).



Some other things that came to my mind:

Conkeror has implemented massive amounts of functionality in ways that  
Emacs users expect.
For example I quickly checked the following set of common tasks with basic  
text edition:
* C-n, C-p, C-f, C-b, M-f, M-b, C-t, M-t, C-a, C-e, C-v, M-v
* C-s, C-r
* C-w,M-w,C-y,C-k
* Marks and regions are used for operations (C-SPACE, C-x C-x)

All of them work as expected. This makes it easier and more natural to tab  
between both applications (Emacs and conkeror).

The interface is styled after Emacs and is designed to be fully keyboard  
driven.
The browser works with 'buffers' while firefox still defaults to tabs.
It's actively developed and mostly by people who already are Emacs users.
Do to the nature of the project it should be easier to have specific  
features accepted in the upstream then with Firefox.
Consider sending a patch for Firefox to improve Emacs compatibility - I  
don't think it would concern most developers.

Of course this could be done as an extensions to Firefox. In fact conkeror  
started that way and they decided to go all the way down.

I believe that having a good default and supported browser that integrates  
well with Emacs would be great.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-21 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-08 20:11 Why Emacs should have a good web-browser Fernando
2009-07-08 20:54 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-08 21:55   ` joakim
2009-07-08 22:42     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-13 22:54       ` Daniel Colascione
2009-07-08 22:55     ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-08 22:59       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-08 23:05         ` Davis Herring
2009-07-09  0:05       ` joakim
2009-07-09 12:36       ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-09 14:25         ` joakim
2009-07-09 16:01           ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-09 17:39             ` joakim
2009-07-09 22:19       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-08 20:58 ` Richard Riley
2009-07-09 21:12 ` Paul R
2009-07-11 20:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-12 11:01   ` Robert D. Crawford
2009-07-13  7:18   ` Ken Raeburn
2009-07-17 15:59   ` Paul R
2009-07-18  1:29     ` Miles Bader
2009-07-21  9:18       ` Paul R
2009-07-21 15:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-21 16:31           ` Miles Bader
2009-07-21 17:25             ` Thomas Lord
2009-07-22  9:23             ` Paul R
2009-07-21 16:52           ` David Reitter
2009-07-21 20:34             ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-21 17:13           ` Thomas Lord
2009-07-21 18:21             ` Adam Wołk
2009-07-21 19:01               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-21 19:26                 ` Adam Wołk [this message]
2009-07-21 19:33                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-21 19:47                     ` Adam Wołk
2009-07-21 20:02                   ` Robert D. Crawford
2009-07-21 20:08                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-21 20:37                       ` Robert D. Crawford
2009-07-21 20:24                     ` Adam Wołk
2009-07-21 21:27                       ` Robert D. Crawford
2009-07-21 21:36                         ` T.V. Raman
2009-07-21 22:14                           ` Robert D. Crawford
2009-07-21 21:48                         ` Adam Wołk
2009-07-21 22:24                           ` Robert D. Crawford
2009-07-22 10:33               ` Tassilo Horn
2009-07-22  9:12           ` Paul R
2009-07-22 14:47             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <fxezoucvx5x8i57cbqUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-21 22:09         ` Stephen Eilert
2009-07-21 23:05           ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-22 17:40             ` Stephen Eilert
2009-07-22 18:07               ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-30 18:22   ` joakim
2009-09-02  9:58     ` martin rudalics
2009-09-02 12:00       ` joakim
2009-09-12 19:03 ` Deniz Dogan

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