From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Defaulting to fancy diary display Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:07:47 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251940087 29035 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2009 01:08:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:08:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 03 03:08:00 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mj0nv-0003US-M8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:07:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59740 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mj0nu-00089g-Qx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:07:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mj0np-00089b-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:07:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mj0nk-00086R-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:07:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45018 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mj0nk-00086G-If for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:40664) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mj0nk-0000SW-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Mj0nj-0006Ni-NK; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:07:47 -0400 X-Spook: SRI MD5 Blowpipe Ft. Meade Yukon BROMURE Compsec rs9512c X-Ran: /fd+h+}7m#d-9WS_(A|O`WFV+%K List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114991 Archived-At: I should like to change the default of diary-display-function from diary-simple-display to diary-fancy-display. The fancy display allows for many more features than the simple one does (sorting, including, sexps etc); but these features are only relevant if you use them, so they will not confuse new users. The only advantage of the simple display is that you can edit the diary file directly. I would argue that this is actually confusing for most users - non-relevant text is made invisible, so what you are editing is only a portion of the real file. In particular, if you copy/paste information, you can inadvertently paste invisible text. When you want to edit the file, it is better to edit it as a normal file. I believe the fancy display is a better default for most users.