From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12886: 23.2; wrong message for "apropos" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:35:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: <404AF2AA-EBA0-4B30-94FA-417FB5C5EC7A@ldc.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352918136 17179 80.91.229.3 (14 Nov 2012 18:35:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12886@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mark A. Mandel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 14 19:35:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TYhoN-0004Qq-Ar for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:35:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60941 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYhoD-0004kj-IP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:35:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYho8-0004kP-K5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYho5-0005aO-Hr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:35:28 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60561) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYho5-0005aD-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:35:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TYhof-0002Ei-L1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:36:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12886 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12886-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12886.13529181608589 (code B ref 12886); Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12886) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2012 18:36:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TYhoe-0002EU-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:36:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TYhoc-0002EN-3r for 12886@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:35:59 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYhnz-0002MX-OE; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:35:19 -0500 X-Spook: radar underground USCODE cybercash United Nations NSA CDC X-Ran: Mj;%`$%49%4N!*'X*t%a1VPFv!08/GUiD%Y-K!MepP61+ZX?$E*I5Qo(|c@WM,V$m8yM+r X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <404AF2AA-EBA0-4B30-94FA-417FB5C5EC7A@ldc.upenn.edu> (Mark A. Mandel's message of "Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:14:04 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66929 Archived-At: Mark A. Mandel wrote: > I am used to using ctl-H ctl-A for "apropos", i.e., find commands by > looking for substrings. I can't find any version of Emacs in which C-h C-a runs apropos. I went back as far as 21.1. > But when I use ctl-H ctl-A I see (what I guess is) the Gnu Emacs > welcome or general info screen Yes, C-h C-a runs `about-emacs' since Emacs 22.2. Before that, it was undefined. > , and the minibuffer says something like "To search for help on a > subject, use ctl-H ctl-A": As we can see below in the *Messages* output, it actually says: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. which is true, but pointless, so the messages was removed recently and will be gone in Emacs 24.3. http://debbugs.gnu.org/12680 > Then I tried ctl-H A, which is in the ctl-H ? help command list. That > worked, and *that*'s what the minibuffer should say under the general > info screen. I disagree that the about-emacs screen needs to mention apropos. > In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.29) > of 2010-05-08 on black.local [...] > Recent messages: > call-interactively: Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. [2 times]