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From: John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Org-mode and citations
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:57:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o2ga037f7361004021957s50fe704elca1ff33354cad3fa@mail.gmail.com> (raw)


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Hi,


Just finishing up a report and was taking care of the citations. I've been
using C-c C-x f and it's been awesome... until I go to export to LaTeX when
everything falls apart. Footnotes in my document came during unordered list
items (bullets) and the LaTeX export had all kinds of mismatched brackets
that I haven't been able to sort through. Is there a better way? Here's an
example of what I'm experiencing:

------
\item Through further research, it turns out that World Choice Travel is
    exactly how FHTM is generating income from Travelocity\footnote{Office
of the State Auditor, State of Montana
\end{itemize}

\end{itemize}
(2010). \emph{Temporary Cease and Desist Order and Opportunity for Hearing}
(SEC-2010-12), 29. \href{
http://www.sao.mt.gov/legal/securities/S10_HITECH%20Cease%20and%20Desist.pdf}{http://www.sao.mt.gov}
}
\begin{itemize}
\item \textbf{Magazines.com:} 35\% on all sales\footnote{Magazines.com
(2009). \emph{Sales Affiliate Information}. Retrieved
\end{itemize}
31 March 2010 from \href{
http://www.magazines.com/affiliate/index}{http://www.magazines.com} }
------

So... (2010). \emph... should be after 'State of Montana' on one item rather
than made to be in between an \end{itemize} and \begin{itemize} (no man's
land, that is). Same thing with the last line '31 March...': that should
have come after 'Retrieved' two lines above.

I have found all kinds of references, but nothing that lays things out play
by play. I would prefer to have org-mode integration so that I don't put in
bib info in the tex file, change something, and have to do it all over again
when I re-export.

So, I can find some info about Bibtex and Reftex but in my opinion it's just
not very helpful. Even the bibtex.org website seems difficult to me. I
copied their examples exactly and end up with 'Blablabla said Nobody ~[?]'
and some weird stuff at the bottom. I have also found Mario's Brain Dump (
http://www.mfasold.net/blog/2009/02/using-emacs-org-mode-to-draft-papers/)
which only says to put these lines in an org-mode file:

\bibliographystyle{plain}
\bibliography{ProbePosition}

I have also found this:
http://www.hep.manchester.ac.uk/u/jenny/jcwdocs/latex/bibtexbasics.html
and this: http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg02317.html

Usually I just get something like no bibliography found, 'some references
were undefined' when exporting from LaTeX mode with C-c C-c, or at one point
got 'Wrong type argument stringp, nil when trying this:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2406/match=bibliography

I completely admit that I might be stupid about not finding some obvious
information, but it's really been challenging!

Is there any sort of 'quick' way to use bibtex or reftex in org-mode?
Googling doesn't get me hits on the org-mode manual.

I would also accept user suggestions of how to use bibtex/reftex with
org-mode, but more of a 'from scratch' method. I have looked and looked and
could tell you:
- bibtex and reftex exist (but not really what the difference is)
- what bibtex file formats are like and what classes work with the various
source types (i have the manual)
- that there seems to be a way to use this in org-mode
- that those who use it really like it

But not much else.

As an alternative, is there a way to:
- fix my issue above?
- use endnotes instead of footnotes via this method?

Many thanks for sparing my hair.


John

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