* bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
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@ 2008-08-26 8:51 ` Michael Albinus
2008-08-26 17:07 ` Glenn Morris
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From: Michael Albinus @ 2008-08-26 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Charles Curley; +Cc: 779
Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> writes:
> I open one or more files via tramp on a remote machine. I then close
> down Emacs. I do not save remote files in the desktop.
>
> On re-lanching Emacs, it logs into the machines via tramp. This is a
> waste of time if none of the files are in the desktop. Worse, if
> somehow tramp tries to log in to a user:machine where I don't have the
> password, Emacs ceases to process .emacs. Similarly if it tries to log
> into an account on a machine which is shut down or otherwise
> unavailable.
Tramp does not reconnect to files on its own. You can check this if
you call "emacs -Q".
Likely you have enabled recentf or another package like this. Could
you, please, check it in your .emacs?
> Thank you.
Best regards, Michael.
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* bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
2008-08-26 8:51 ` bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch Michael Albinus
@ 2008-08-26 17:07 ` Glenn Morris
2008-08-26 18:04 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2008-08-26 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: 779
Michael Albinus wrote:
> Likely you have enabled recentf or another package like this. Could
> you, please, check it in your .emacs?
It's the first entry in "Minor modes in effect:" in the original report.
There seems to be a fix for this in the trunk recentf-keep:
Remote files are checked for readability only in case a connection
is established to that remote system, otherwise they are kept in
the recent list without checking their readability.
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* bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
2008-08-26 17:07 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2008-08-26 18:04 ` Michael Albinus
2008-08-26 18:06 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2008-08-26 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 779
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> Michael Albinus wrote:
>
>> Likely you have enabled recentf or another package like this. Could
>> you, please, check it in your .emacs?
>
> It's the first entry in "Minor modes in effect:" in the original
> report.
Yep. Charles did already confirm by a PM, that the problem was caused by this.
> There seems to be a fix for this in the trunk recentf-keep:
>
> Remote files are checked for readability only in case a connection
> is established to that remote system, otherwise they are kept in
> the recent list without checking their readability.
Right, but this doesn't work for Emacs 22 (which is used here). Instead
of, recentf-keep recommends there
A predicate is a function that is passed a filename to check and that
must return non-nil to keep it. For example, you can add the
`file-remote-p' predicate in front of this list to keep remote file
names in the recent list without checking their readability through a
remote access.
After all, I guess we can tag this record as "notabug".
Best regards, Michael.
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* bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
2008-08-26 18:04 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2008-08-26 18:06 ` Glenn Morris
2008-08-26 18:18 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2008-08-26 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: 779
Michael Albinus wrote:
> After all, I guess we can tag this record as "notabug".
I'd go for "fixed 779 23.0.60" personally.
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* bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
2008-08-26 18:06 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2008-08-26 18:18 ` Michael Albinus
2008-08-26 18:36 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2008-08-26 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 779
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> Michael Albinus wrote:
>
>> After all, I guess we can tag this record as "notabug".
>
> I'd go for "fixed 779 23.0.60" personally.
I don't object (I wrote the fix last year :-)
However, it is a more philosophical question, whether it is a "bug fix"
or an "improvement of convenience".
Best regards, Michael.
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* bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
2008-08-26 18:18 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2008-08-26 18:36 ` Glenn Morris
2008-08-26 18:45 ` Processed: " Emacs bug Tracking System
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2008-08-26 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: 779
retitle 779 recentf and remote files
tags 779 notabug
fixed 779 23.0.60
stop
Michael Albinus wrote:
>> I'd go for "fixed 779 23.0.60" personally.
>
> I don't object (I wrote the fix last year :-)
Let's have both. :)
(Bug tracker can be a feature request tracker too.)
> However, it is a more philosophical question, whether it is a "bug fix"
> or an "improvement of convenience".
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* Processed: Re: bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
2008-08-26 18:36 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2008-08-26 18:45 ` Emacs bug Tracking System
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From: Emacs bug Tracking System @ 2008-08-26 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Emacs Bugs
Processing commands for control@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com:
> retitle 779 recentf and remote files
bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
Changed bug title to `recentf and remote files' from `Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch'.
> tags 779 notabug
bug#779: recentf and remote files
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Tags added: notabug
> fixed 779 23.0.60
bug#779: recentf and remote files
bug marked as fixed in version 23.0.60.
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* bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch
@ 2008-08-25 22:54 Charles Curley
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From: Charles Curley @ 2008-08-25 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:
I open one or more files via tramp on a remote machine. I then close
down Emacs. I do not save remote files in the desktop.
On re-lanching Emacs, it logs into the machines via tramp. This is a
waste of time if none of the files are in the desktop. Worse, if
somehow tramp tries to log in to a user:machine where I don't have the
password, Emacs ceases to process .emacs. Similarly if it tries to log
into an account on a machine which is shut down or otherwise
unavailable.
If there is a variable "tramp.*" that controls this behavior, I don't
see it.
Thank you.
If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
/usr/share/emacs/22.1/etc/DEBUG for instructions.
No crash.
In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
of 2008-05-03 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10400090
configured using `configure '--build=i486-linux-gnu' '--host=i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs22:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.1/leim' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS=''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Fundamental
Minor modes in effect:
recentf-mode: t
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
partial-completion-mode: t
display-time-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
abbrev-mode: t
Recent input:
<return> C-g <down> C-x C-g <help-echo> <menu-bar>
<buffer> "*tramp/ssh dzur*" <help-echo> <help-echo>
<menu-bar> <buffer> "*tramp/ssh dragon*" <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> C-x k <return> C-x k <return>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <menu-bar> <help-menu> <emacs-problems>
C-s t r a m C-x k <return> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar> <help-menu>
<report-emacs-bug>
Recent messages:
tramp: Waiting 60s for prompt from remote shell
tramp: Sending password [2 times]
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2008-08-26 8:51 ` bug#779: Tramp saves old locations, tries to re-open them on launch Michael Albinus
2008-08-26 17:07 ` Glenn Morris
2008-08-26 18:04 ` Michael Albinus
2008-08-26 18:06 ` Glenn Morris
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