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From: Michael Albinus <Michael.Albinus@alcatel.de>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Pages of the Tramp package.
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:57:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nqhdvlm2ub.fsf@alcatel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x54qrlyr23.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "15 Apr 2004 21:33:24 +0200")

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

>> - Tramp has different syntax for Emacs and XEmacs. I don't like it,
>>   but that's the status. Therefore, there are TWO web pages for
>>   Tramp, each linked to the other.
>
> Two _web_ pages or two _info_ pages?

Two _web_ pages. One _info_ page, but the syntax described differs wrt
the Emacs flavor detected during Tramp configure.

> There is nothing to be said against having Tramp web pages out of
> Emacs.  Since tramp is integrated with Emacs, one should also take a
> look at how to integrate documentation to it.  But as long as tramp
> is also a separate project, the focus of interest it has as a
> separate project should certainly also be documented separately.

>From tramp.texi uploaded to Emacs CVS one could generate a web page,
of course. But it has less contents, and should be used only for
references from Emacs web pages.

> What I was originally asking was why tramp is not a GNU project,
> which is surprising when you see it also as a part of Emacs and (c)
> FSF.  There would be some valid answers:

In fact I can guess the answer only because moving Tramp to savannah
happened before I have been involved.

> a) tramp explicitly condones nonfree software.  I don't see this here
> (and nonfree is not the same as non-GNU, or non-GPL).

It doesn't AFAIK.

> b) there are parts of tramp that are problematic to be distributed by
> the FSF, perhaps related to encryption or something.  But then the
> issue is not GNU or non-GNU, but the distribution by the FSF.  If we
> have a problem in that area (which I certainly don't hope), nothing
> will help except ripping tramp from Emacs and all servers in the
> U.S., and have it copyrighted and distributed by someone outside of
> U.S.A. and the FSF.

Here I'm not sure because I don't know regulations of used
packages. Tramp uses ssh, samba, ftp as external packages. None of them
should be regulated. There's no encryption, just encoding/decoding
(mimencode, uuencode) which shouldn't be a problem.

The most likely answer is "it just happened".

Best regards, Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-15 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-10 17:25 Pages of the Tramp package David Kastrup
2004-04-12  3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-12  4:23   ` David Kastrup
2004-04-13 17:44     ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-14 12:11       ` Michael Albinus
2004-04-14 12:48         ` David Kastrup
2004-04-14 12:59           ` Michael Albinus
2004-04-15 16:45         ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-15 19:03           ` Michael Albinus
2004-04-15 19:33             ` David Kastrup
2004-04-15 19:57               ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2004-04-16 20:25               ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-04-16 21:06                 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-17  7:15             ` Richard Stallman

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