From: Michael Albinus <Michael.Albinus@alcatel.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$"
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:48:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <nqadbql4lz.fsf@alcatel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307061624.h66GO0G06676@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:24:00 -0500 (CDT)")
Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu> writes:
> Michael Albinus wrote:
>
> `PC-do-completion' must do it, because the result is shown in the
> minibuffer.
>
> Or a file name like this: "$NEXT_HOP:/share$$", where $NEXT_HOP has
> the value "/smb:next.hop.com". At least case (2) would be needed,
> because Tramp file name handler could be activated only after applying
> substitute-in-file-name to that file name.
>
> You can always double up all $'s if your function only has access to
> an already substituted filename. (Putting a /: at the beginning would
But you even don't know that. My original problem came from the fact
that, if a user applies partial completion, the file name is already
substituted, and in the other case it isn't.
Meanwhile, I tend to regard it as a bug in `PC-do-completion', like
the others.
> be easier, but that could probably cause remote filenames to be
> considered local.) All functions have to make clear in their
> documentation string what they are going to do to file names (if
> anything) and in which form they return them, if non-standard. If
> they do not, that is a bug. This is not madness. It is completely
> obvious. Functions need to say what they do. People who use
> functions need to know exactly what they do, not more or less what
> they do. It is usually easier to be able to find this out by reading
> documentation strings than by carefully reading through every single
> line of code of the function itself and of all indirectly called
> functions.
For file name operations, this would be even an implementation
restriction whether they can apply substitute-in-file-name, or not.
More general, it might be said under which circumstances it is
harmless to apply substitute-in-file-name (for local cases, where the
result of substitution isn't returned by the function), and when not.
> Sincerely,
>
> Luc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-07-07 15:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-05 16:44 substitute-in-file-name and "$" Michael Albinus
2003-07-05 18:29 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-05 23:16 ` Michael Albinus
2003-07-05 23:58 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 12:20 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-07-06 12:44 ` Miles Bader
2003-07-06 14:30 ` Michael Albinus
2003-07-06 16:24 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 16:53 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-07-07 15:48 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2003-07-06 0:07 ` Miles Bader
2003-07-06 12:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-07-06 14:37 ` Michael Albinus
2003-07-06 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-07-06 17:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-07-07 11:50 ` Michael Albinus
2003-07-07 14:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-07-07 16:10 ` Michael Albinus
2003-07-09 23:47 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-07 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-07 21:33 ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-07-08 20:02 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-06 18:53 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-06 23:46 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-07-06 21:55 ` Stefan Monnier
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