But yeah, i'm not an expert on unix, maybe other standard utilities also behave like this. On Sunday, December 8th, 2024 at 23:46, the_wurfkreuz wrote: > I understand that eshell built-ins might behave differently from Unix commands, but isn't it still inconsistent for eshell/which to use stderr (indicating an error) while returning exit code 0 (indicating success)? If this isn't an accidental oversight, i'd be interested to know why it was designed this way. > > On Sunday, December 8th, 2024 at 23:30, Ship Mints wrote: > >> I don't know why I'm choosing to answer eshell questions today... >> >> which is an eshell built-in command. You can see this by running >> >> $ which which >> eshell/which is a native-compiled Lisp function in 'esh-cmd.el'. >> >> Try running /usr/bin/false and then echo $? and you'll see the correct unix command exit value. >> >> I do not think eshell builtins are intended to behave the same way. >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 11:31 AM the_wurfkreuz via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: >> >>> eshell/which doesn't return a non-zero exit code on not finding a file. Yet it sends the output to stderr. It looks like there is an inconsistency. >>> >>> Steps to reproduce: >>> >>> ~ $ which test-file >>> which: no test-file in ([...]/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/snap/bin) >>> ~ $ which test-file | grep theoretical >>> which: no test-file in ([...]/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/snap/bin) >>> ~ $ echo $? >>> 0 >>> ~ $ which test-file 2>&1 | grep theoretical >>> ~ [1] $ >>> >>> In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version >>> 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-12-06 built on >>> wurfkreuz-B650M-PG-Riptide >>> Repository revision: 9ddec89e422d0dd6e9069731b8f2dd2c90aa5607 >>> Repository branch: master >>> Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302006 >>> System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS >>> >>> Configured using: >>> 'configure --with-native-compilation=aot --with-tree-sitter --with-gif >>> --with-png --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-imagemagick >>> --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xwidgets --without-rsvg >>> 'WEBKIT_CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/webkitgtk-4.1 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 >>> -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0 >>> -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz >>> -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 >>> -I/usr/include/libmount -I/usr/include/blkid -I/usr/include/fribidi >>> -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 >>> -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu >>> -I/usr/include/webp -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 >>> -I/usr/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi-2.0 >>> -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include >>> -I/usr/include/libsoup-3.0 -I/usr/include/sysprof-6 -pthread ' >>> 'WEBKIT_LIBS=-lwebkit2gtk-4.1 -lgtk-3 -lgdk-3 -lz -lpangocairo-1.0 >>> -lpango-1.0 -lharfbuzz -latk-1.0 -lcairo-gobject -lcairo >>> -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lsoup-3.0 -Wl,--export-dynamic -lgmodule-2.0 -pthread >>> -lglib-2.0 -lgio-2.0 -ljavascriptcoregtk-4.1 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 ' >>> 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>>> raku-detect flymake-hadolint flymake envrc inheritenv eat shackle trace >>> cl-print popper-echo popper transpose-frame magit-bookmark >>> magit-submodule magit-blame magit-stash magit-reflog magit-bisect >>> magit-push magit-pull magit-fetch magit-clone magit-remote magit-commit >>> magit-sequence magit-notes magit-worktree magit-tag magit-merge >>> magit-branch magit-reset magit-files magit-refs magit-status magit >>> magit-repos magit-apply magit-wip magit-log which-func imenu magit-diff >>> smerge-mode diff-mode track-changes git-commit log-edit message sendmail >>> yank-media puny rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config >>> gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 >>> rfc2045 mm-util ietf-drums mail-prsvr mailabbrev mail-utils gmm-utils >>> mailheader pcvs-util add-log magit-core magit-autorevert magit-margin >>> magit-transient magit-process magit-mode benchmark magit-git magit-base >>> magit-section cursor-sensor crm hydra lv with-editor server >>> all-the-icons-completion all-the-icons-dired all-the-icons >>> all-the-icons-faces data-material data-weathericons data-octicons >>> data-fileicons data-faicons data-alltheicons embark-consult embark ffap >>> thingatpt consult bookmark marginalia vertico project zoxide sudo-edit >>> exec-path-from-shell fish-completion em-cmpl em-dirs esh-mode esh-var >>> esh-cmd esh-ext esh-proc esh-opt esh-io esh-arg esh-module >>> esh-module-loaddefs esh-util cape corfu-popupinfo corfu-history >>> corfu-echo corfu orderless yasnippet commander f wgrep grep compile >>> text-property-search which-key docker docker-context docker-volume >>> docker-network docker-image docker-container docker-faces docker-core >>> docker-compose docker-process docker-utils tablist advice tablist-filter >>> semantic/wisent/comp semantic/wisent semantic/wisent/wisent >>> semantic/util-modes semantic/util semantic pp semantic/tag semantic/lex >>> semantic/fw mode-local find-func cedet dired dired-loaddefs docker-group >>> transient edmacro kmacro compat dash aio generator s avy clojure-ts-mode >>> treesit-auto treesit rose-pine-theme undo-tree diff queue delsel >>> midnight autorevert filenotify saveplace tramp-cache time-stamp tramp-sh >>> tramp trampver tramp-integration files-x tramp-message tramp-compat xdg >>> shell pcomplete comint ansi-osc ring parse-time iso8601 time-date >>> format-spec ansi-color tramp-loaddefs desktop frameset comp comp-cstr >>> cl-extra help-mode warnings comp-run comp-common elec-pair recentf >>> tree-widget wid-edit display-line-numbers use-package use-package-ensure >>> use-package-delight use-package-diminish use-package-bind-key bind-key >>> easy-mmode use-package-core all-the-icons-completion-autoloads >>> all-the-icons-dired-autoloads all-the-icons-autoloads avy-autoloads >>> cape-autoloads clojure-ts-mode-autoloads commander-autoloads >>> corfu-autoloads docker-autoloads aio-autoloads dockerfile-mode-autoloads >>> eat-autoloads emacs-eat-autoloads finder-inf embark-consult-autoloads >>> consult-autoloads embark-autoloads envrc-autoloads >>> eshell-syntax-highlighting-autoloads evil-collection-autoloads >>> annalist-autoloads evil-org-autoloads evil-surround-autoloads >>> evil-autoloads exec-path-from-shell-autoloads f-autoloads >>> fish-completion-autoloads flymake-ansible-lint-autoloads >>> flymake-hadolint-autoloads flymake-shellcheck-autoloads >>> go-mode-autoloads goto-chg-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads >>> hydra-autoloads inheritenv-autoloads lua-mode-autoloads lv-autoloads >>> magit-autoloads pcase marginalia-autoloads meow-autoloads >>> nix-mode-autoloads magit-section-autoloads orderless-autoloads >>> org-bullets-autoloads org-download-autoloads async-autoloads >>> org-drill-autoloads org-modern-autoloads persist-autoloads >>> popper-autoloads pyvenv-autoloads raku-mode-autoloads s-autoloads >>> shackle-autoloads sudo-edit-autoloads swiper-autoloads ivy-autoloads >>> systemd-autoloads rx tablist-autoloads terraform-mode-autoloads >>> dash-autoloads hcl-mode-autoloads toc-org-autoloads transient-autoloads >>> transpose-frame-autoloads treesit-auto-autoloads undo-tree-autoloads >>> queue-autoloads vertico-autoloads wgrep-autoloads info >>> with-editor-autoloads yaml-mode-autoloads yasnippet-autoloads >>> zoxide-autoloads package browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand >>> url-methods url-history url-cookie generate-lisp-file url-domsuf >>> url-util mailcap url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio >>> eieio-core cl-macs icons password-cache json subr-x map byte-opt gv >>> bytecomp byte-compile url-vars cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip >>> cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type >>> elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd touch-screen >>> tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace >>> newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar >>> rfn-eshadow 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