From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19082: 24.4.50; seconds-to-time: Autoloading failed to define function time-add Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:00:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416439051 18356 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2014 23:17:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19082@debbugs.gnu.org To: James Cloos Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 20 00:17:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEUz-0004W4-26 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 00:17:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32904 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEUy-0002ma-8z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:17:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50611) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEUv-0002mU-2v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:17:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEUu-0001n4-4B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:17:17 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41592) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEUu-0001mu-0Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:17:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEFB-0000Uu-U8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19082 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 19082-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19082.14164380561894 (code B ref 19082); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19082) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 23:00:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEF5-0000UT-IQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:00:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34375) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEF3-0000UM-K1 for 19082@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:00:54 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrEF2-0002VM-9g; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:00:52 -0500 X-Spook: assassinate government Serbian Rand Corporation explosion X-Ran: [7]W4.QskJ(hRr9#Sh%1bpiTU5v@e?zr\`|y0sOPGcdh7IKawh4VN>s$UZieL3K~8:Ko;v X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (James Cloos's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:47:05 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:96292 James Cloos wrote: > I reported it from the affected version, started with -Q. You said: I get the $subject error continuously since compiling git master. But your subject says "24.4.50": i) git master has version 25.0.50, not 24.4.50 ii) even the emacs-24 branch has version 24.4.51, and has done so since before switching to git iii) your mail had a bzr repository revision > As it turned out, running with -nsl fixed it. > > It looke like gnus added an el file with the same name as the one in > emacs, which was loaded instead of emacs' file. IIUC, a local shadow of something broke something? I don't think this is an Emacs problem. > So the real bug is that -nsl is not the default. But obviously we can't make that the default setting?