From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Kyllingstad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:37:25 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> <87zlsouef7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <47E8A665.1010507@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206448684 17256 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2008 12:38:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, acm@muc.de, Chong Yidong , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FISO-8859-15=3FQ=3FJan=5FDj=3DE4rv=3F=3D?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 13:38:24 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Je8Q2-0005ZZ-H2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:38:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Je8PO-0000aF-9P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:37:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Je8PK-0000Zp-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Je8PG-0000Yu-Ox for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Je8PG-0000Yq-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:37:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.esmertec.com ([212.249.37.45] helo=postie.esmertec.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Je8PC-0007fE-Qk; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:37:30 -0400 Original-Received: by postie.esmertec.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 0003A1BD97; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:37:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.esmertec.com (unknown [10.10.10.10]) by postie.esmertec.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D60C1BD97; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:37:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from BARBUDA ([10.10.9.60]) by mail.esmertec.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:37:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47E8A665.1010507@swipnet.se> (ISO's message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:14:45 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2008 12:37:28.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC7A8EA0:01C88E74] X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93409 Archived-At: * Jan: > FWIW, I think t-m-m should be on by default. A poll may be OK, but if > turning on t-m-m is for new users (and the new users I've seen really > want it on) a poll will not reach those users. IMHO we should take a > look at how other applications behaves GUI-wise and adjust Emacs > defaults to be as similar as it can. A revert-to-classic-emacs option > is a good idea, but may be difficult to implement. I guess the opinio= n > on what is classical Emacs differs a lot between experienced users :-)= . M-x use-emacs-22-defaults, use-emacs-21-defaults, etc ? -- Ren=E9