From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Albrecht Mehl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Thanks Re: Global keymap not found Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 11:07:21 +0200 Organization: albasani.net Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444409538 2288 80.91.229.3 (9 Oct 2015 16:52:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 16:52:18 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 09 18:52:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkatv-0005FC-N5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:52:11 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:37191) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkatt-0000FD-9g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:52:09 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39581 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zka9s-0004wM-W5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:04:37 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Trace: news.albasani.net t0g8HL2BxGbEXx839IhTOPRG6iGPTwPcI0RIoLSYied8wg6TSW53BUgdT4qNI+SP2N8gC9+yJmzOBGCHSOcn3w== Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 09:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="284s7RAXzeF71gDEyJWf1VpxYRviwF7wuqFPPMdeE5M9zdVNa98G2RoRFBPQYgwf/KCCnMarMjyuG+fAt1W43L075orv8iOGQ8KGsq/zYc+vtGfPrXvW1LxWBV5OV52H"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:PVF2LbFQ5OaGyq1AT0r9Ip8ovbQ= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:215276 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107560 Archived-At: Am 08.10.2015 um 16:36 schrieb Albrecht Mehl: > Thank you very much for your reply. > > Am 08.10.2015 um 10:53 schrieb Michael Heerdegen: >> Have >> you tried C-h b? What kind of information do you miss? > > No I have not tried it as I had not been directaed to doing it. > The C-h b was just the thing I was looking for. > > The manual should be readable selectively, i.e. one should find > fundamental things at once after one has chosen in the table of context > an interesting point. So I was - still am - interested in abbreviations, > chose 48 and was stuck there. Maybe people here think 'A beginner should be moderate and not ask for improvements' so that I get here a bad image. Nevertheless I insist - Fundamental things should be available at once and not after hopping from one point to another to another ... - They should be available in the manual, too, not just in the info manual - The manual should have three appendices - there might be other candidates - 1. Alphabetical list of all global (prefix) keys 2. Alph. list of all global commands 3. List of all global commands grouped according to scope - The chapters in the manual are numerated within the text. So they should be in the table of context as well. People write 'Look at 49.1' e.g. and one wonders where this is. @Loris Bennett: What Wahl had written was exactly what I had been looking for. That's why I thanked him. A. Mehl -- Albrecht Mehl |eBriefe an:mehlBEIfreundePUNKTtu-darmstadtPUNKTde Veilchenweg 7 |Tel. (06151) 37 39 92 64291 Darmstadt, Germany|sehenswert - ungefähr 'Wir einsam im All' http://www.phrenopolis.com/perspective/solarsystem/index.html